Are any Bodybuilders Christians here

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I dont believe Oden created the universe, does that mean I have to present a alternative reason to the meaning of my existance independent of Oden, otherwise Im simple minded?

For atheist there is no more reason to believe in god than there is to believe in oden or a invisible pinc unicorn at the dark side of the moon. No offence meant, but thats just the way I see it.

Without proof there is no reason to believe, with proof belife isnt needed.



Emotions are just chemical and electric interactions within our brain which we can even manipulate by toying around with EM fields and chemicals. There are *********ary explanations to why we became emotional animals and they all seem reasonable. It seems like most of our emotions exist in one way or another among most pack animals aswell. Love when a wolf mother takes care of its cub, curiosity when the cub searches through its sourounding, fear when a mouse is caught by a fox, joy when a dog sees his owner after a long day alone etc. Animals communicate in different forms, humans have just taken it a step further.

Humans, emotions, animals etc are not by chance, its by natural selection.

Hey what's up Kärnfysikern, I was wondering if you were going to jump in here.... couldn't resist could ya? Me neither I tried to remain neutral...

When I said for peopel to chime in.... I meant to at least give there perspective of the complex matter of human origin... The reason I say that is because, if someone says... "i don't know what I believe, but I do know that what you believe is wrong", to me it is just simple minded to an extent... it means that one is actually afraid to make stance or choice on a very tough decision.

So we have discussed ev o lution on a previous thread, but I will have to say that it is mixed with fancy realities and ideologies too. The fact that our brain processes chemicals that cause us to react doesn't explain a whole lot other than that is what is going on inside... I might not dispute that that doesn't even occur... what I am saying is that it is the way our body and brain was created..

we also know many other things such as siimple things like hot air rises, etc.. that means we are learning how the creator made things to me... but even then we only tap the surface... think about the response on chemical balances in the brain... sounds cool, but doesn't really mean a whole lot unless we interpret it to mean more.

This might be a weak analogy, but I am not a mechanic right... well I can see and understand how a motor works... doesn't mean I can make one or stuff like that... It means I understand a little about the laws for that particular thing work or intended to work in order to function.

If a person is an athiest and then decides to embrace evo lution.. that is fine, but as we have discussed before, at least understand that a lot of what they believe is not quite as free minded as they might think... Ev o lution, is the same as most religious beliefs systems in the world... it has constantly changed, it has radicalists, and is based on believing what cannot be seen or proved too... I just think the followers accepted into this group is little more open ended where they will take anyone including people who have no idea about it, into their belief system.. think aobut it... how many professed athiest claim they believe in evol ution and have no clue what it even teaches??

anyhow, that is what i meant when I said give some answers to our existence... if the answer is I believe in ev o lution, then I say...ok!... but, if it is i don't know anything, I just know your belief system is a joke...then I still say ok, but where is the objective thought process? and where does the real joke lie?