What could replace side lateral raises?

[GT2]

If you're trying to BUILD deltoids, and not just create definition, scrap lateral raises all-together. Stick with clean and press, and the military press (which you are already doing), these will build the most mass in your shoulders. They have worked WONDERS for me.

[Maverick_J8]

If you're trying to BUILD deltoids, and not just create definition, scrap lateral raises all-together. Stick with clean and press, and the military press (which you are already doing), these will build the most mass in your shoulders. They have worked WONDERS for me.

Disagree.

You need to target all three heads to develop the look of big shoulders. Even if its just a set on each. Laterals don't just produce definition. They produce mass and width.

Having said that, the base of the workout should be the mass exercises mentioned.

[Ronnie Rowland]

One of the biggest mistakes being made by some bodybuilders is thinking isolation exercises like flyes and lateral raises are for definition/sculpting and pressing movements are for mass.

Definition comes from diet and cardio. Isolation movements are for building additional muscle mass!

[GT2]

Disagree.

You need to target all three heads to develop the look of big shoulders. Even if its just a set on each. Laterals don't just produce definition. They produce mass and width.

Having said that, the base of the workout should be the mass exercises mentioned.

The clean and press and military press work all three heads of the shoulder, thus "developing the look of big shoulders". So in that case, we'll agree to disagree.

[Maverick_J8]

The clean and press and military press work all three heads of the shoulder, thus "developing the look of big shoulders".

Correct. But imagine what results would produce if you incoperated side laterals.

So in that case, we'll agree to disagree.

Agree.

[HitOrMiss]

well I tried them again but the pain was still there and this time it carried over to my other exercises and affected the rest of my workout. Normally I do 3-4 sets of side laterals but I think Im gonna have to drop em. In its place I plan to add 2 sets of clean and press and 2 sets of upright rows and see how that goes. Thanks guys for the advice.