Xtreme Tren/H Drol Log

[djsir007]

Oh, just looked over ur first post and says ur only gonn do an otc pct product and maybe nolva? If u read the stickys up top you'll see that when u take a progesterone type ph like tren u dont want to take nolva at all cus it will make progesterone sides worse, same goes with reall aas tren and nolva. The preferred pct for a progesterone ph cycle is clomid (serm) and aromasin (ai) for 4 weeks. CHeck out the superdrol sticky up top, explains some of this. Just to be safe and since ur already gettin sides from the tren id say go with clomid and aromasin for pct just to be safe and help keep all ur gains you've made once u finish. Also try the l-dex or letro while on cycle as i described above and see if that helps or look into cabergoline if things get worse since that specifically for progesterone type sides but more for real aas progesterone sides since this stuff is potent and expensive. Again, this is why i hate these tren ph's, too many problems and precautions to take for little gains and crazy sides. Let me know if this helps and how it goes. Best of luck bro and keep up the good work!

I have some ldex, will use that instead of the nolv (did know that about the nolv and prolactin issues). PCT will be clomid and ldex (no aromasin). I was planning on stopping the tren thursday night and starting the hdrol friday morning. Besides my sensisitve nip and mild weight gain everything is good strenght and aggression are definitley up.

[ACE5HIGH]

I have some ldex, will use that instead of the nolv (did know that about the nolv and prolactin issues). PCT will be clomid and ldex (no aromasin). I was planning on stopping the tren thursday night and starting the hdrol friday morning. Besides my sensisitve nip and mild weight gain everything is good strenght and aggression are definitley up.

Some say nolva and prolactin issues and others say AI's and prolactin issues

I personally like using the AI's in these situations, havent had a prob yet going that way.

I knew we were on the same cycle and all but didnt realize until recently were both really about at the same point and having the same results/side it seems... So yeah, Ive been using .25 L-dex after the first week or so on the Tren when I realized it was going to give me a bit of problems... It took a few days to "kick in"

I only have a few days left of the Tren myself and have considered dropping it too... Ive liked it alright, but nothing special. I wanted to get a little bit into my H-drol before I dropped the tren though so I could try to keep gians rolling in...

[djsir007]

Glad Im not the only one. JK
I really noticed some leaning out today at the gym. People pointed out a few times and I was very aggressive today. Love it. I am going to force complete my third week of XTren then start the Hdrol on friday morning. I keep looking at the Hdrol though wanting to start like Aces does, but I will make it two more days.

Aces are you noticing any other sides? I think the nip is the only thing for me. Blood pressure might be up a little bit, but nothing major.

[wukillabee]

Glad Im not the only one. JK
I really noticed some leaning out today at the gym. People pointed out a few times and I was very aggressive today. Love it. I am going to force complete my third week of XTren then start the Hdrol on friday morning. I keep looking at the Hdrol though wanting to start like Aces does, but I will make it two more days.

Aces are you noticing any other sides? I think the nip is the only thing for me. Blood pressure might be up a little bit, but nothing major.

You can always start the hdrol now and just stack em for the next few days til u run out of tren. This way the hdrol will have a headstart getting into ur system since just like any oral, takes at least 4-5 days till its fully in ur system working as it should. I always bridge my ph's as i described either early here or in aces thread, i forgot which one i explained it. Ur choice but no reason to do an 8 week oral cycle of 2 compounds when u can do it in 6 with synergy and better results and less sides. Maybe not for this cycle but say ur gonna run 2 orals for 4 weeks each at a different time. Run first oral alone for weeks 1-2, add in oral 2 at start of week 2 or day 14 and you would then be stacking the 2 orals for weeks/days 2-4 or days 14-30, then weeks 4-6 will just be the second oral alone for a 6 week bridge cycle. This way the second oral will be fully in ur system by the time u drop the first oral and they can even work together while stacked. WOrks very well and have done this a few times when i want to stack an oral that ive never used before or 2 orals ive never used before because this way i can see how they each work seperately and together.