Second Cycle, Test prop and Tren what do you think?

[Michael Scott]

I think you're running it too long. I'd rather do 10 weeks of Prop and 8 weeks of Tren A. And 500mg of Tren a week is a shit load, have you done any research on how bad the sides are ? In terms of sides I don't think anything else is worst than Tren. Also the leanness of your gains has much more to do with your diet than the gear you use. You could run Test-E, Deca, and Dbol and still have leaner gains than Prop + Tren ace if your diet is in order. Just keep it clean and eat only the minimum amount you need to stimulate muscle growth.

[DS21]

I think you're running it too long. I'd rather do 10 weeks of Prop and 8 weeks of Tren A. And 500mg of Tren a week is a shit load, have you done any research on how bad the sides are ? In terms of sides I don't think anything else is worst than Tren. Also the leanness of your gains has much more to do with your diet than the gear you use. You could run Test-E, Deca, and Dbol and still have leaner gains than Prop + Tren ace if your diet is in order. Just keep it clean and eat only the minimum amount you need to stimulate muscle growth.

I appreciate your input. My other option was to run it as followed:

WK 1-12 Test Prop 250mg/w
WK 1-8 Tren Ace 500mg/w
Wk 9-12 Winny 500mg/w

In regards to the sides, I have read a lot on tren and the one that I worry about is insomnia. If it is really hard for me to sleep I will take some melatonin or benadryl at night. My diet is really clean, what I ment was I want more muscle growth then test gave me on my last cycle. I know diet is the most important factor for muscle growth, I just thought going from PH to test I would have been inpressed. The sex drive was unreal, but I was hoping to put on a good 15-20lbs of muscle over the three months. From what I've heard tren and test can get you that.

I haven't purchased my gear yet so I am always open to any suggestions.

Thanks

[Michael Scott]

I appreciate your input. My other option was to run it as followed:

WK 1-12 Test Prop 250mg/w
WK 1-8 Tren Ace 500mg/w
Wk 9-12 Winny 500mg/w

In regards to the sides, I have read a lot on tren and the one that I worry about is insomnia. If it is really hard for me to sleep I will take some melatonin or benadryl at night. My diet is really clean, what I ment was I want more muscle growth then test gave me on my last cycle. I know diet is the most important factor for muscle growth, I just thought going from PH to test I would have been inpressed. The sex drive was unreal, but I was hoping to put on a good 15-20lbs of muscle over the three months. From what I've heard tren and test can get you that.

I haven't purchased my gear yet so I am always open to any suggestions.

Thanks

Good luck, but you might want something stronger than melatonin or benadryl. Try and see if you can get a doctor to prescribe you some Lunesta. It's better than Ambien because it can be used for longer amounts of time and remain effective.


also I don't know if you care or not but Winny and Tren will probably be pretty mean to the hair on your head.