2 cycle

[stallion_1]

masteron it good bro, much better than winny imo because it is injected with less pain and has an ester
not a bulking roid? why? it binds to SHBG and increases the strength of other drugs. its anabolic and androgenic- so it builds muscle and strength... what makes it not a bulking drug? cause people dont often use it that way?
Are u talking about masteron or winny?
Mastron is not for bulking and so is not winny, was it your option that winny is for bulking? Because that what it sounds like.

dude, first u need to be able to write by using proper english.
second, masteron and winny are cutting steroids. NOT BULKING.
ALL GOD DAMN AAS HAVE ANABOLIC PROPERTIES.

[one8nine]

dude, first u need to be able to write by using proper english.
second, masteron and winny are cutting steroids. NOT BULKING.
ALL GOD DAMN AAS HAVE ANABOLIC PROPERTIES.

[one8nine]

dude, first u need to be able to write by using proper english.
second, masteron and winny are cutting steroids. NOT BULKING.
ALL GOD DAMN AAS HAVE ANABOLIC PROPERTIES.

please explain why a dht base cannot be used to bulk

[Phate]

please explain why a dht base cannot be used to bulk

exactly what i've been waiting for

stallion, you keep throwing out these one-liners that are full of sarcasm or just talking down to people in general, why not explain your point of view on something so we can all learn and benefit, this is an education forum after all

[stallion_1]

please explain why a dht base cannot be used to bulk

DHT, which is the result of a transformation of testosterone at the 5-alpha-reductase enzyme, is a hormone that is 3 to 4 times as androgenic as test and is chemically and biologically structurally incapable of forming estrogen. You would think that this is just perfect to add a bunch of mass in a bulking cycle. neverthelss, there is a system that controls the amount of DHT in the human body. In the instance that the levels of DHT get to high, the 3alpha hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase enzyme transforms it into a mostly inactive compound known as 5-alpha-androstan-3alpha,17beta-diol. what does this mean? u ask stallion. well this means that unless you use crazy ass enormous amounts of dht, most of the sustance of what is at hand shall be kind of useless at the height of the androgen receptor in muscle tissue. therefore, dht is not best suited to promote a huge gain in muscle mass.

[one8nine]

DHT, which is the result of a transformation of testosterone at the 5-alpha-reductase enzyme, is a hormone that is 3 to 4 times as androgenic as test and is chemically and biologically structurally incapable of forming estrogen. You would think that this is just perfect to add a bunch of mass in a bulking cycle. neverthelss, there is a system that controls the amount of DHT in the human body. In the instance that the levels of DHT get to high, the 3alpha hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase enzyme transforms it into a mostly inactive compound known as 3-alpha. what does this mean? u ask stallion. well this means that unless you use crazy ass enormous amounts of dht, most of the sustance of what is at hand shall be kind of useless at the height of the androgen receptor in muscle tissue. therefore, dht is not best suited to promote a huge gain in muscle mass.

heres my rebuttal, respectfully:
DHTs can bind to SHBG, making other drugs more effective
they are anabolic, meaning they do create muscle
DHTs are the best types of AAS for strength, as strength increases, it should be easier to gain size
DHTs can lower aromatize, increasing free test, lowering levels of catabolic estrogen
put simply a test/19nor/DHT cycle will be more effective than a test/19nor cycle simply because DHTs can do things that test and 19nors cant, covering even more bases

[Phate]

i guess i'll be the referee, and the winner is......both of you

both of you made good points, but you kinda proved each others point

the verdict being, that while a dht is not good by itself for bulking, when used in combination with other compounds it can create a synergy with them that would otherwise not be present


YAY!!! WE ALL WIN, GROUP HUG IN THE SHOWER TONIGHT!!!! OR NOT

[stallion_1]

i guess i'll be the referee, and the winner is......both of you

both of you made good points, but you kinda proved each others point

the verdict being, that while a dht is not good by itself for bulking, when used in combination with other compounds it can create a synergy with them that would otherwise not be present


yay!!! We all win, group hug in the shower tonight!!!! Or not

i dont shower with dudes unless u kneel down to pick up the soap.

[one8nine]

i guess i'll be the referee, and the winner is......both of you

both of you made good points, but you kinda proved each others point

the verdict being, that while a dht is not good by itself for bulking, when used in combination with other compounds it can create a synergy with them that would otherwise not be present


YAY!!! WE ALL WIN, GROUP HUG IN THE SHOWER TONIGHT!!!! OR NOT

exactlyy thank you sirrr!

[stallion_1]

Used in sinergy, u can to bulk, but not just alone to bulk.

[stallion_1]

heres my rebuttal, respectfully:
DHTs can bind to SHBG, making other drugs more effective
they are anabolic, meaning they do create muscle
DHTs are the best types of AAS for strength, as strength increases, it should be easier to gain size
DHTs can lower aromatize, increasing free test, lowering levels of catabolic estrogen
put simply a test/19nor/DHT cycle will be more effective than a test/19nor cycle simply because DHTs can do things that test and 19nors cant, covering even more bases

LOOK DUDE, JUST LIKE IN THEORETICAL PHYSICS, A LOT OF STUFF IS POSSIBLE (EVEN TRAVEL IN TIME), BUT WHEN IT COMES TO PRACTICE, THEORY FALLS SHORT BEFORE REALITY.YOU'RE THEORY IS THAT as strength increases, it should be easier to gain size. WELL THATS A FALSE, WHEN IT COMES TO PRACTICE, I WANT YOU TO USE ANAVAR OR THE DHT BASED MASTERON, THEY WILL GIVE YOU INCREASED STRENGHT,BUT WILL YOU GAIN A LOT OF MASS? NO, COZ DHT IS NOT SUITED FOR THAT AS I ALREADY MENTION. SO NO U CANNOT USED A DHT BASED STEROID FOR BULKING. NOW WHEN U USE THE TEST OR THE 19 NOR ROIDS AS BASE, NOW EVERYTHING CHANGES, FOR THOSE BASES ARE USED FOR MASS.
CERTAINLY U CAN USE A DHT IN A BULKING CYCLE AS IT WILL GIVE U STRENGHT SO LONG AS U USE A BASE THAT IS MEANT TO PRODUCE MASS.

[one8nine]

LOOK DUDE, JUST LIKE IN THEORETICAL PHYSICS, A LOT OF STUFF IS POSSIBLE (EVEN TRAVEL IN TIME), BUT WHEN IT COMES TO PRACTICE, THEORY FALLS SHORT BEFORE REALITY.YOU'RE THEORY IS THAT as strength increases, it should be easier to gain size. WELL THATS A FALSE, WHEN IT COMES TO PRACTICE, I WANT YOU TO USE ANAVAR OR THE DHT BASED MASTERON, THEY WILL GIVE YOU INCREASED STRENGHT,BUT WILL YOU GAIN A LOT OF MASS? NO, COZ DHT IS NOT SUITED FOR THAT AS I ALREADY MENTION. SO NO U CANNOT USED A DHT BASED STEROID FOR BULKING. NOW WHEN U USE THE TEST OR THE 19 NOR ROIDS AS BASE, NOW EVERYTHING CHANGES, FOR THOSE BASES ARE USED FOR MASS.
CERTAINLY U CAN USE A DHT IN A BULKING CYCLE AS IT WILL GIVE U STRENGHT SO LONG AS U USE A BASE THAT IS MEANT TO PRODUCE MASS.

actually
i have used
masteron 3x
anavr 1x

ive done test/deca cycles, and multiple test/19nor/masteron cycles
my experience also shows that dhts are great additions to bulking cycles

whats your personal experience? no more theory

[stallion_1]

Personal experience
test suspension/anadrol/deca cycle after monitoring changes in the increased strenght for each muscle, the results were written down.

1 year later
test suspension/anadrol/masteron/deca cycle after monitoring changes in the increased strenght for each muscle, the results were written down.

When results of both cycles were compared, i arived at the conclusion that there was not a big difference to conclude that the dht based steroid improved my strenght or muscle stimulation. I concluded that i had just pissed my money away on the masteron.