Nolvadex CAN be use with 19nors...

["Maximus"]

Well, again, sorry if I post info from other forum, but I happen to have great admiration for William Llewellyn, and this is what he said about Nolvadex and 19nors.


Nolvadex & Progesterone

"Nolvadex is usually useful for gyno regardless, as progesterone and estrogen both play synergistic roles here, and estrogen is necessary for progesterone to impart notable cell growth. If you antagonize estrogenic stimulation with nolvadex, it is usually sufficient to mitigate gyno even when being exacerbated by progestational steroids."

Well, lots of ppl keep repiting thins without even knowing what their talking about, I've asked several times 'cause I know loooots of ppl who are taking deca and using nolva and not getting any gyno or worsting existing gyno... (though there may be lots of ppl who do get it worse)

What do you guys have to say about that opinion? (not putting the link so ppl dont think I'm mkt william's site.)

Ok, I will try to summ. this for you as I see that you just copy and pasted this from the net and did not think about what it actually meant:

This means that Nolva is perfectly fine for the athlete who's worried about the sides of 19nors and don't mind including Nolva to prevent the sides. However, the results it will be great -synergistic- but won't be as great as if you waited to use the Nolva for your PCT, as a base, after your cycle!

Also, I haven't seen anybody around here saying Nolva is not good to treat gyno sides...

[roid_rage]

Ok, I will try to summ. this for you as I see that you just copy and pasted this from the net and did not think about what it actually meant:

This means that Nolva is perfectly fine for the athlete who's worried about the sides of 19nors and don't mind including Nolva to prevent the sides. However, the results it will be great -synergistic- but won't be as great as if you waited to use the Nolva for your PCT, as a base, after your cycle!

Also, I haven't seen anybody around here saying Nolva is not good to treat gyno sides...

This my friend HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PCT OR WHATSOEVER... This has to be with ppl (lots of them, and include ME) SAYING that Nolva should NOT be use while on 19nors, and a respectfull guys saying it can. No more no less.

Nor I said ppl says nolva is not good for test related gyno, I think I made my self pretty clear, 19nors.

By the way, I just dont go around copy pasting everything I find, I have asked so many times in different forums why is that ppl keep on saying that 19nors should not be use along with nolva... and if you look around, you will find like 1000 post here and other forums of ppl saying the same thing, while very few really know and explain why is that. PPl will say, 'cause nolva binds to the prog. receptor and that makes gyno worse... well most ppl dont even know what that means... I was just going around boards and found something is pretty interesting to debate, and opinion coming from a guy that is very well known and respect in the roid world...

Just starting some threat to discuss something more interesting that how much test and deca or tren should I be using for my cycle.