Nolvadex CAN be use with 19nors...

[one8nine]

first, regarless of whether or not its true of false that nolva increases progesterone related side effects, it should not be used on ANY cycle.
muscle growth is based on the tearing down and rebuilding of muscle, nolvadex greatly inhibits muscle to break down in the first place, therefore inhibits overall growth. For ths reason, endurance athletes use it alone to decrease muscle fatigue.

second, whether or not nolvadex causes increased side effects, its still not a great choice because we have BETTER choices. letro is much more effective in controling gyno/estrogen/progesterone, why use a sub par tool?

third, i do believe that nolvadex stimulates pgr. this theory is based on the idea that by crushing estrogen, progesterone related side effects are impossible.

fourth, even if this was true, that means one would need a dosage of nolvadex so intense that estrogen is crushed COMPLETELY, which is unhealthy and will inhibit gains further

[roid_rage]

first, regarless of whether or not its true of false that nolva increases progesterone related side effects, it should not be used on ANY cycle.
muscle growth is based on the tearing down and rebuilding of muscle, nolvadex greatly inhibits muscle to break down in the first place, therefore inhibits overall growth. For ths reason, endurance athletes use it alone to decrease muscle fatigue.

second, whether or not nolvadex causes increased side effects, its still not a great choice because we have BETTER choices. letro is much more effective in controling gyno/estrogen/progesterone, why use a sub par tool?

third, i do believe that nolvadex stimulates pgr. this theory is based on the idea that by crushing estrogen, progesterone related side effects are impossible.

fourth, even if this was true, that means one would need a dosage of nolvadex so intense that estrogen is crushed COMPLETELY, which is unhealthy and will inhibit gains further

Thanx bro!

Now, well, is not always a choice bro... in some countries, like southamericans, letro is not a choice, and adex only to rich ppl...

Now, yeah, that's pretty much what the theory says... What I dont agree with what you say, is that the dosis should be high in order to crush estrogens, no matter how much nolva you take, well estrogens wont be crush, they will just not get to bind the the receptor... Now, what william says is that with getting estrogens out of battle, even if the roid causes progesterone activity is not enough to create prolactin problems...

[one8nine]

Thanx bro!

Now, well, is not always a choice bro... in some countries, like southamericans, letro is not a choice, and adex only to rich ppl...

Now, yeah, that's pretty much what the theory says... What I dont agree with what you say, is that the dosis should be high in order to crush estrogens, no matter how much nolva you take, well estrogens wont be crush, they will just not get to bind the the receptor... Now, what william says is that with getting estrogens out of battle, even if the roid causes progesterone activity is not enough to create prolactin problems...

good point on availability

im having a little problem understanding your english in the last part though.

[roid_rage]

good point on availability

im having a little problem understanding your english in the last part though.

crap..sorry, show me what you dont understand I'll try to make it clear...

[one8nine]

crap..sorry, show me what you dont understand I'll try to make it clear...

the entire paragraph. are you saying that only a small dosage is needed?