HCG use on 16 week cycle

[davidinvienna]

Hi guys!

looking for your advice on following please.

total of 16 weeks prop; first 8 at 100 eod, 2nd 8 at 100ed including 8 weeks of Tren A&Mast (weeks 6-13) at 100 eod each.

- use HCG PCT only and at what dose
- use HCG last two weeks of cycle till 2 weeks into PCT (again what dose?)
- HCG throughout to keep the boys in shape as well as for PCT (what dose? what's the risk of gyno from HCG while on Test and Tren?)

been using Nolva while on Prop only, dropped it in week 6 when started to use Tren. currently not using an AI/SERM... B12 only since cant get my hands on caber or bromo for the possible prolactin gyno.

so what's your advice?

[T_Own]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4127466

ooooo yeahhhh, i beat him to it. but here is 189's hcg guide

[one8nine]

hcg crash course
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4127466

estrogen/progesterone side effect control on cycle
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=354229

my pct
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4111013

prop/tren/masteron need to be injected daily or if you are scared of needles switch to enanthate ester of each

never use nolva on cycle

[one8nine]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4127466

ooooo yeahhhh, i beat him to it. but here is 189's hcg guide

haha

[davidinvienna]

hcg crash course
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4127466

estrogen/progesterone side effect control on cycle
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=354229

my pct
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4111013

prop/tren/masteron need to be injected daily or if you are scared of needles switch to enanthate ester of each

never use nolva on cycle

nah the needles aint the prob mate ... have enough Test to go 100 ed but if I take the TrenA/Mast ed I'd have to bring em down to 50ed each since there are some "delivery probs" round here atm ... would 50 Tren and 50 Mast ed be sufficient for 1st time user of these compounds or you rate that as too low?

[T_Own]

haha don't worry, that was just a one time thing. i'm surprised i made it though

you probably wouldn't want to go 100mg ed with the tren. it doesn't matter that its only 50mg, the weekly dose isn't the problem, its just the shooting schedule.

[one8nine]

nah the needles aint the prob mate ... have enough Test to go 100 ed but if I take the TrenA/Mast ed I'd have to bring em down to 50ed each since there are some "delivery probs" round here atm ... would 50 Tren and 50 Mast ed be sufficient for 1st time user of these compounds or you rate that as too low?

50mg each is a great cycle even for advanced users

[davidinvienna]

hcg crash course
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4127466

estrogen/progesterone side effect control on cycle
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=354229

my pct
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4111013

prop/tren/masteron need to be injected daily or if you are scared of needles switch to enanthate ester of each

never use nolva on cycle

ok, checked your thread ... someone once told me not to go Provi while on Mast since both DHT's (??) what s ur take on that? I have enough Provi lyin round to take care of the estrogen part .... unfortunately cant get my hands on the compounds necessary to combat prolac. ... any natural alternatives there?

[davidinvienna]

haha don't worry, that was just a one time thing. i'm surprised i made it though

you probably wouldn't want to go 100mg ed with the tren. it doesn't matter that its only 50mg, the weekly dose isn't the problem, its just the shooting schedule.

sweet, that s sorted then :-)

[T_Own]

ok, checked your thread ... someone once told me not to go Provi while on Mast since both DHT's (??) what s ur take on that? I have enough Provi lyin round to take care of the estrogen part .... unfortunately cant get my hands on the compounds necessary to combat prolac. ... any natural alternatives there?

if you're just using the proviron for pct it shouldn't be a problem.

[davidinvienna]

if you're just using the proviron for pct it shouldn't be a problem.

ok. that s good news for a start. so i d have to get my hands on Adex to control estro sides ... that I could possibly do ... my concern are the possible prog sides and not being able to get caber or bromo round here ... not sure if Letro is obtainable either

[T_Own]

is "here" vienna? you wouldn't need arimidex and letro either

[one8nine]

ok. that s good news for a start. so i d have to get my hands on Adex to control estro sides ... that I could possibly do ... my concern are the possible prog sides and not being able to get caber or bromo round here ... not sure if Letro is obtainable either

www.ar-r.com has letro

[one8nine]

is "here" vienna? you wouldn't need arimidex and letro either

he needs letro for tren/test

[T_Own]

i thought that might catch someone up.. i meant it as he wouldn't need both.

[davidinvienna]

is "here" vienna? you wouldn't need arimidex and letro either

yea "here" is Vienna indeed matey

[T_Own]

haha ok, well i don't know if arr ships internationally, but can't you get stuff from pharmacies there?

[davidinvienna]

he needs letro for tren/test

since Letro is quite harsh I may assume I should only use it if signs of gyno actually appear or would you advise to use it at a low "precautionary" dose throughout?

my planned PCT is HCG/Nolva and Proviron

[T_Own]

you can use it throughout. like .25mg eod/e3d. something like that

[davidinvienna]

haha ok, well i don't know if arr ships internationally, but can't you get stuff from pharmacies there?

yea ARR ships ... just luck of the draw if customs picks it out or not. but usually they are quite liberal on gear here so i ll give it a try

[davidinvienna]

you can use it throughout. like .25mg eod/e3d. something like that

cool! thanks for that mate!