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[wildcyde6942]

I just got sum juice and was told to inject 1 cc of each every 4 days, Testosterone Enanthate, Trenboione Acetate and Nandroione Decanoate. Does anyone have any input on this.
Thanks

[Nitro29]

I'm not the expert around here, but that sounds like a horrible (first) cycle to me. Mixing short esters and long esters? And a 19noir on your first cycle? Who told you this?

[one8nine]

how many mL do you have of test enan
what mg/mL is the test enanthate

tren ace is injected every day, and very very serious- not good for beginners at all
deca will shrivvel up your little nutsies worse than anything, not a good starter cycle either


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[wildcyde6942]

That is what the guy told me that sold it to me, this is why I am here asking. This is my first cycle. the Tren is a 100 mg/ml bottle, the deca is a 300mg/ml and the test is a 275 mg/ml. I am 43, 5'11" 190 been working out better than 5 years have only done " legal steroids " I am looking to bulk up my upper body.

[one8nine]

how many mL do you have of test enan
what mg/mL is the test enanthate

tren ace is injected every day, and very very serious- not good for beginners at all
deca will shrivvel up your little nutsies worse than anything, not a good starter cycle either


age
height
weight
bf%
diet summary/# meals per day
years lifting / workout split
cycle experience
pct/estrogen control knowledge
goals (size/cut/strength/speed etc...)

deca and tren are very good steroids
but again, that version of tren (tren acetate) needs to be injected daily
they are also both 19-nor, so they dont mix well
please answer the bold questions you missed for proper advice

[wildcyde6942]

I dont know my bf%, I eat 3 meals a day consisting of pig,chicken, cow, I drink 2 to 4 protien shakes thruout the day and protien bars for snacks between meals, also creatine drinks before and after work outs. I guess i have no knowledge of pct/estogen control. Like I stated Im new at this , this is what I got and obviously sum not so good advice. What can / should I do with what I have. Im not even sure about the conversion from cc's to ml

[wildcyde6942]

10ml of test but its available if i need more

[one8nine]

I dont know my bf%, I eat 3 meals a day consisting of pig,chicken, cow, I drink 2 to 4 protien shakes thruout the day and protien bars for snacks between meals, also creatine drinks before and after work outs. I guess i have no knowledge of pct/estogen control. Like I stated Im new at this , this is what I got and obviously sum not so good advice. What can / should I do with what I have. Im not even sure about the conversion from cc's to ml

post up a picture so we can guess you bf%, if your bf% is not right, steroids will be very dangerous, this is very important to know

how to post a pic
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=104516

read this then tell me how many mL you have:

how to dose your drugs (cc, mL, mg etc)
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4150809

steroids will do nothing to you without a good diet
you do not have a good diet, start here:

diet
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355744
http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6
http://www.steroid.com/diet.php

[one8nine]

10ml of test but its available if i need more

okay you need 20mL - 30mL of the test.

theres nothing wrong with tren and deca, you can sav those for later cycles
but for this cycle you just need 20mL-30mL of test e

there are some other things youll need for estrogen, and recovery, but well get to that later ill help you one step at a time

[one8nine]

but as for your diet you need 4-6 real meals a day
each with carbs, meat, and vegetables
the only time you need a shake is
1: right after a workout
2: before bed
those bards are crap too

check the diet links to learn more details

[wildcyde6942]

Hate to say it but Im just not that smart to understand that conversion chart this is what it says on the bottom of the bottleof test enan 10ML contains 275mg/ml. I really appreciate your help

[Phate]

Hate to say it but Im just not that smart to understand that conversion chart this is what it says on the bottom of the bottleof test enan 10ML contains 275mg/ml. I really appreciate your help

what don't you understand, ask us so we can explain it to you, i'd rather you know what you were doing before you start injecting stuff into your body

[one8nine]

Hate to say it but Im just not that smart to understand that conversion chart this is what it says on the bottom of the bottleof test enan 10ML contains 275mg/ml. I really appreciate your help

well for you it will be simple
youll just need 20mL - 30mL of your test 275

mL = cc, theyre just different words/letter but mean the same thing bro
a milliLitre (mL) IS a cubic centimeter (cc)

for your cycle youll do 2 shots a week. one monday, one thursday.
each shot will be 1mL of your test

but before anything lets
1. figure out your bf with a picture
2. get your diet improved
3. get you some things to take so you dont grow man boobs on cycle, and something to take when you come off so your balls grow back and work right

[wildcyde6942]

I was told to inject 1 cc I dont know what that converts to as far as ML . the bottle says 10 ML contains 275mg/ml I dont know what that means as far as how many 1 cc does that eguals to.

[wildcyde6942]

so my 10 ML bottle is only 10 - 1 cc injections?

[Phate]

I was told to inject 1 cc I dont know what that converts to as far as ML . the bottle says 10 ML contains 275mg/ml I dont know what that means as far as how many 1 cc does that eguals to.

1cc=1mL

275mg/mL is called the concentration and tell you how many mgs(275 in this case) are in 1mL(same as 1cc)

[wildcyde6942]

what do i need so i dont grow man boobs and my nuts will grow back and work right. Does this mean my sex life is going down the drain while im on cycle?

[Phate]

what do i need so i dont grow man boobs and my nuts will grow back and work right. Does this mean my sex life is going down the drain while im on cycle?

not to be mean, but you are NOWHERE NEAR READY FOR AS, you need to research, here is a link that will give you lots of info, read as much as possible, try to read 1-2 articles a day, and ask questions as needed, hell, pm me questions if you want and i'll answer, or if i don't know i'll find out for you

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355504


remember, diet is the most important thing and bodybuilding is a marathon, not a sprint, slow and steady will win every time

[one8nine]

what do i need so i dont grow man boobs and my nuts will grow back and work right. Does this mean my sex life is going down the drain while im on cycle?

if you dont take the right things, yes
if you do things right youll wanna fvck 6 times a day
so start stocking up on girlfriends

read these threads and if you still need help were right here

by the way, gyno = man boobs

estrogen/progesterone side effect control on cycle
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=354229

my pct
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4111013

[one8nine]

so my 10 ML bottle is only 10 - 1 cc injections?

yes , 10 cc = 10 mL
you only have 10 shots, and you need 2 shots a week = 5 weeks
you need a 10 or 15 week cycle
test e takes 4-6 weeks to peak in the blood, so you only have enough to mak it start to kick in

[BG]

You shouldnt be juicing at all. Ill throw you a curve ball, whats your pct consist of??

[Phate]

You shouldnt be juicing at all. Ill throw you a curve balls, whats your pct consist of??

that's what i'm trying to tell him


DIET CAN DO AMAZING THINGS IF YOU ONLY LEARN HOW TO USE IT PROPERLY

[wildcyde6942]

ok i will read the articles tonite thank you for all the help, I will get 2 more bottles of test, get my b/f% done at the gym and eat better. thanks again for not treating me like an idiot.

[Phate]

ok i will read the articles tonite thank you for all the help, I will get 2 more bottles of test, get my b/f% done at the gym and eat better. thanks again for not treating me like an idiot.

everyone has to start somewhere, and this forum is dedicated to helping newbs and experienced users alike

one final thing, your gear is good for up to 2-3 years if stored in room temp and away from direct light, so THERE IS NO HURRY TO CYCLE, get everything in check first and plan, research, and you'll be much better off

[wildcyde6942]

your probably right but Im going to do it anyway so what ever help i can get is great. and your curve ball is a good one i dont know what pct means.

[wildcyde6942]

so i dont have to keep it in the refridge?

[Phate]

your probably right but Im going to do it anyway so what ever help i can get is great. and your curve ball is a good one i dont know what pct means.

well then i would start research because next to diet, pct is the next most important part of cycling

and i'm not saying don't cycle, i'm just saying wait a little while, read this and you'll understand why

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=15197

[BG]

so i dont have to keep it in the refridge?

Fridge is no good. Room temp no sunlite like 189 said.

[one8nine]

your probably right but Im going to do it anyway so what ever help i can get is great. and your curve ball is a good one i dont know what pct means.

i already covered pct, have you clicked any of my links?
my pct
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4111013

[BG]

i already covered pct, have you clicked any of my links?
my pct
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4111013

Come on, nobody goes to your links!!LOL You gotta atleast tell the what to look for, head them in the right direction.

[one8nine]

Come on, nobody goes to your links!!LOL You gotta atleast tell the what to look for, head them in the right direction.

well this guy needs to read my entire pct thread so i think i did it right lol

[wildcyde6942]

ok so i read so much my head is spinning are you people doctors? that is sum complicated reading at least for me it is. I think it would be easier for me if sumone would just tell me what im suppose to do and take. as far as pct goes i got the jist that i need to have one and i think nolva at 20mg and clomid at 100mg after my last test e injection for 30 days. is that about right?

[wildcyde6942]

I didnt really grasp what i should take while on a test e cycle

[one8nine]

you need to keep reading then bro.
pct starts 2 weeks after your last test shot, and thats way too much clomid



you really need to understand the risks and effects and dosages of the drugs you are taking

im not a doctor at all, im in college 1 year. we all just read read read.


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thank you

The Staff

[one8nine]

estrogen/progesterone side effect control on cycle
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=354229

my pct
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4111013

Beginner Cycle Guide
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355742

focus on those three links bro read them a few times slowly
we already listed everything very very simply in those three threads