HCG (Pregnyl) FAQ

[dannydxd]

who said that you can run HCG while on cycle.
there is absolutely no pint of do that. as long as you tests see a high level ot testosterone or androgen in ur blood stream, it will go back to sleep, so wt's the point?!! gettin' bigger balls while on cycle for few days?

The consensus is that if you keep your nuts from shuttin down, it's a lot easier to get them producing Testosterone naturally after your cycle is through. Also, many people lose their libido during a cycle for this reason, especially the highly feared Deca-Dick, if that was your choice of roids. This effectively cuts down your PCT, which is very important since during PCT is when we're in a catabolic state losing mucle as we try to get our endogenous testosterone back up running normally. So running 250IUs twice a week through your whole cycle will prevent your nuts from shutting down. Any more than 1000IUs a week would probably start desensitizing the leydig cells.

[smokethedays]

The consensus is that if you keep your nuts from shuttin down, it's a lot easier to get them producing Testosterone naturally after your cycle is through. Also, many people lose their libido during a cycle for this reason, especially the highly feared Deca-Dick, if that was your choice of roids. This effectively cuts down your PCT, which is very important since during PCT is when we're in a catabolic state losing mucle as we try to get our endogenous testosterone back up running normally. So running 250IUs twice a week through your whole cycle will prevent your nuts from shutting down. Any more than 1000IUs a week would probably start desensitizing the leydig cells.

Where do you guys get this BS from?!
Shut down=No Testosterone production. The only way you keep Testosterone production is by staying on HCG ALL ALONG the cycle which is extremely stupid.

Once your Testicals detects higher Androgen levels it will shut down, so HCG won't do anything to help you.

The only use for HCG 'during' a cycle is to GET OFF completely, go on HCG for 3 weeks then back on cycle which is called 'BRIDGING' and that is an old school tecknique and no longer used, cause its useless.

HCG must be used after cutting off the cycle for REAL benefits.
Oh by the way, I don't a single REAL body builder who uses HCG at 500 IU.
common dose is 1500 IU up to 2500 IU every 4th day.

[dannydxd]

Where do you guys get this BS from?!
Shut down=No Testosterone production. The only way you keep Testosterone production is by staying on HCG ALL ALONG the cycle which is extremely stupid.

Once your Testicals detects higher Androgen levels it will shut down, so HCG won't do anything to help you.

The only use for HCG 'during' a cycle is to GET OFF completely, go on HCG for 3 weeks then back on cycle which is called 'BRIDGING' and that is an old school tecknique and no longer used, cause its useless.

HCG must be used after cutting off the cycle for REAL benefits.
Oh by the way, I don't a single REAL body builder who uses HCG at 500 IU.
common dose is 1500 IU up to 2500 IU every 4th day.

There's tons of information out there regarding hcg use during a cycle. Many of them by folks like Anthony Roberts who has written countless books/articles on steroids, including different types of PCT protocols. Dude, do some research.

As for the amount of hcg i stated, yes it's low. It's because it's just enough to keep your nuts from shuttin down during a cycle. That's it's primary purpose during a cycle, so very little is used. If you choose to do it near the end of the cycle, yes, you need larger doses, because at that point, the purpose is to get them back up to normal size since they've atrophied (assuming cycles 12+ weeks). So ofcourse it makes sense to use larger doses, duh.

Doses any higher than 1000IUs per week during a cycle might desensitize the leydig cells.

Keeping your nuts they're regular size or close to will certainly reduce PCT, don't you think? I've also read a few articles on on folks that have used hcg during a cycle of Test/Deca; the most feared "Deca Dick", and they didn't have any problems at all down there; no loss of libido at all.

You may continue to call it BS. That's fine. If you're happy with doing things the way you're doing them now, hey, if that works for you, then great, but don't down play new protocols that gain popularity, because you wanna keep it "old school".

In all honesty, i'm simply relaying tons of research i've done on my own from countless resources regarding hcg and it's usages during or after a cycle. I haven't actually done it myself during a cycle, but i'm certainly going to on my next cycle.

[smokethedays]

There's tons of information out there regarding hcg use during a cycle. Many of them by folks like Anthony Roberts who has written countless books/articles on steroids, including different types of PCT protocols. Dude, do some research.

As for the amount of hcg i stated, yes it's low. It's because it's just enough to keep your nuts from shuttin down during a cycle. That's it's primary purpose during a cycle, so very little is used. If you choose to do it near the end of the cycle, yes, you need larger doses, because at that point, the purpose is to get them back up to normal size since they've atrophied (assuming cycles 12+ weeks). So ofcourse it makes sense to use larger doses, duh.

Doses any higher than 1000IUs per week during a cycle might desensitize the leydig cells.

Keeping your nuts they're regular size or close to will certainly reduce PCT, don't you think? I've also read a few articles on on folks that have used hcg during a cycle of Test/Deca; the most feared "Deca Dick", and they didn't have any problems at all down there; no loss of libido at all.

You may continue to call it BS. That's fine. If you're happy with doing things the way you're doing them now, hey, if that works for you, then great, but don't down play new protocols that gain popularity, because you wanna keep it "old school".

In all honesty, i'm simply relaying tons of research i've done on my own from countless resources regarding hcg and it's usages during or after a cycle. I haven't actually done it myself during a cycle, but i'm certainly going to on my next cycle.

If that dude up there is your research source, then that is where u messed up.

he said Anthony Roberts.
And u telling ME to go do some research?!!!

[fightnews]

There's tons of information out there regarding hcg use during a cycle. Many of them by folks like Anthony Roberts who has written countless books/articles on steroids, including different types of PCT protocols. Dude, do some research.

As for the amount of hcg i stated, yes it's low. It's because it's just enough to keep your nuts from shuttin down during a cycle. That's it's primary purpose during a cycle, so very little is used. If you choose to do it near the end of the cycle, yes, you need larger doses, because at that point, the purpose is to get them back up to normal size since they've atrophied (assuming cycles 12+ weeks). So ofcourse it makes sense to use larger doses, duh.

Doses any higher than 1000IUs per week during a cycle might desensitize the leydig cells.

Keeping your nuts they're regular size or close to will certainly reduce PCT, don't you think? I've also read a few articles on on folks that have used hcg during a cycle of Test/Deca; the most feared "Deca Dick", and they didn't have any problems at all down there; no loss of libido at all.

You may continue to call it BS. That's fine. If you're happy with doing things the way you're doing them now, hey, if that works for you, then great, but don't down play new protocols that gain popularity, because you wanna keep it "old school".

In all honesty, i'm simply relaying tons of research i've done on my own from countless resources regarding hcg and it's usages during or after a cycle. I haven't actually done it myself during a cycle, but i'm certainly going to on my next cycle.

I'm sorry but reading forums is not "Research". Research involves studying FACTS. Not reading every idiots theories and every wanna be guru's bull crap online. There are plenty of people out there who think Anthony Roberts is a fraud. He's not a doctor and he hasn't run clinical trials on all his so called protocols.

Nothing against him personally. Same goes for all the other internet gurus, Never mind the online every man that goes around all the forums repeating their ideas like they were peer reviewed facts. Then getting half the stuff wrong and misinterpreted plus lost in translation. There is decent info out there but remember even the good info is mostly unproven. Then the other 99% is nonsense.

[devil-1986]

Where do you guys get this BS from?!
Shut down=No Testosterone production. The only way you keep Testosterone production is by staying on HCG ALL ALONG the cycle which is extremely stupid.

Once your Testicals detects higher Androgen levels it will shut down, so HCG won't do anything to help you.

The only use for HCG 'during' a cycle is to GET OFF completely, go on HCG for 3 weeks then back on cycle which is called 'BRIDGING' and that is an old school tecknique and no longer used, cause its useless.

HCG must be used after cutting off the cycle for REAL benefits.
Oh by the way, I don't a single REAL body builder who uses HCG at 500 IU.
common dose is 1500 IU up to 2500 IU every 4th day.

hi bro , my pct plan for my 6-8 weeks of test p 50-100 mg/ml eod is because tesp p is a short ester then wait 3 days after my last injection and start hcg at dose of 5000 iu every 4 days for 2 weeks with arimidex or letro during this period then going for pct which include clomid @ 75/50/50/50 and nolva @ 40/20/20/20 tell me what do u thing ? is this good plan for my cycle or not ? thank u

[Back In Black]

hi bro , my pct plan for my 6-8 weeks of test p 50-100 mg/ml eod is because tesp p is a short ester then wait 3 days after my last injection and start hcg at dose of 5000 iu every 4 days for 2 weeks with arimidex or letro during this period then going for pct which include clomid @ 75/50/50/50 and nolva @ 40/20/20/20 tell me what do u thing ? is this good plan for my cycle or not ? thank u

You should run your Hcg on cycle not after

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...njections.html

[devil-1986]

You should run your Hcg on cycle not after

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...njections.html

i cant run it during my cycle for some reason , other than tell me what should i do ? tell me is this old protocol is right or not ?

[Back In Black]

i cant run it during my cycle for some reason , other than tell me what should i do ? tell me is this old protocol is right or not ?

Why can't you run it during your cycle?

The link I gave you is the best course of action.

[devil-1986]

Why can't you run it during your cycle?

The link I gave you is the best course of action.

because i can only buy it in one 5000 iu amp around my home town

[devil-1986]

yeah i know and read that article about years ago but what should i do now bro ? , i think it would be better than noting

[devil-1986]

can u help me ? tell me my plan is it ok or not :
my pct plan for my 6-8 weeks of test p 50-100 mg/ml eod is because tesp p is a short ester then wait 3 days after my last injection and start hcg at dose of 5000 iu every 4 days for 2 weeks with arimidex or letro during this period then after 3 days going for pct which include clomid @ 75/50/50/50 and nolva @ 40/20/20/20 tell me what do u thing