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    Quote Originally Posted by 40plusnewbie View Post
    I'm aware of the anavar lipid connection. I have been planning this cycle for 2 months, it will begin after I get the results from my bloodwork after seeing my dr next week.

    My total cholesterol was 182 at last checking, forget the HDL, LDL, and ratio.

    After the cycle I'm fairly certain my HDL will rise and my ratio will improve as well. I am taking a variety of supplements to support healthy cholesterol levels and ate a certain bean soup and took a few supplements for years to support healty cholesterol, things I learned like 10 years ago when my father had a stent put in his thigh.

    My BP is something like 108 over 74

    My goal for total cholesterol is like 150 or under.
    mine went as high as 340, cholesterol that is.. but i have no other factors, but that's not a good thing.. age 47.. current bf.. 10%

    and i did it without var.. and i love var..

    If i could change your diet.. that would really be the big issue here, glancing through your current plan, i thought to myself.. why so much yogurt.. and no fish oils?? or flax/??

    when i saw the pic, i knew then that was a problem, if i had to guess or predict, you hate your shoulders and hate your waist.. to fix that the food you consume, and the type of exercise you do will be the real key..

    If you want it fast, there are ways to do that as well.

    The var..
    you will increase your strength = yes
    you will increase your cholesterol into the danger area = yes
    you will shrink your balls to the size of raisins = maybe but yes
    you will lose some fat = maybe but maybe
    you will lose some hair permanently = yes and probably
    you will be constipated = yes
    you will love it anyway = yes

    What are your real goals?? if it is to increase strength I'd recommend a different type and routine for exercise

    If you said i want to put the most size on the fastest, i'd recommend a different routine

    the point being have a realistic expectation and you will reach your goal.. at 41 years you will not be going for your pro card, but at the same time you should have your eyes open..
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    Quote Originally Posted by spywizard View Post
    mine went as high as 340, cholesterol that is.. but i have no other factors, but that's not a good thing.. age 47.. current bf.. 10%

    and i did it without var.. and i love var..

    If i could change your diet.. that would really be the big issue here, glancing through your current plan, i thought to myself.. why so much yogurt.. and no fish oils?? or flax/??

    when i saw the pic, i knew then that was a problem, if i had to guess or predict, you hate your shoulders and hate your waist.. to fix that the food you consume, and the type of exercise you do will be the real key..

    If you want it fast, there are ways to do that as well.

    The var..
    you will increase your strength = yes
    you will increase your cholesterol into the danger area = yes
    you will shrink your balls to the size of raisins = maybe but yes
    you will lose some fat = maybe but maybe
    you will lose some hair permanently = yes and probably
    you will be constipated = yes
    you will love it anyway = yes

    What are your real goals?? if it is to increase strength I'd recommend a different type and routine for exercise

    If you said i want to put the most size on the fastest, i'd recommend a different routine

    the point being have a realistic expectation and you will reach your goal.. at 41 years you will not be going for your pro card, but at the same time you should have your eyes open..
    Thanks for your input bro.

    As for the yogurt, it was an easy way to get carbs. My wife buys those boxes of fat free yogurt that comes in tubes like a freeze pop, only it's yogurt. They are easy to eat and take on the run, etc. But I've already changed that up. The yogurt is mostly out now and carbs are coming from Ezekiel bread, fiber one cereal (plain, no milk) and I will be adding black beans and pinto beans into the mix.

    And I resumed taking fish oil a few days ago. I put a tbsp into a water bottle with a scoop of green drink and a tbsp of metamucil along with 1/4 tbsp of glutamine and a tbsp of creatine and sip it over a few hrs along with my usual several bottles of H20/day.

    My goal for the cycle is to drop some weight and recomp my body some. I realize I could do this without the var, using sound diet, cardio, and lifting alone but I think the var will improve my results over the same time period than I would get without the var.

    And your right, I hate my shoulders. As far as muscularity goes they are friggin weak as hell (I know I have a lame non muscular body anyway) and that is especially true because I have very broad shoulders and know if I am able to develop them they will be pretty friggin big based on my body size and frame.

    And of couse I hate my mid section. That is a main focus. I'm doing stomach vacuum exercises 3x/week and am going to hit my abs hard with weights twice a week. I've very excited about doing that on var. I think the first time I work my abs with a dumbbell on my chest/behind my head with var running through my veins I might cum

    I have not started the cycle yet and am down 4lbs since Monday with noticible change in the mirror. I'd like to drop 20 by the end of the cycle and do the best I can to get my abs/midsection as far along as I can regarding drop in waist size/fat as well as muscle development.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 40plusnewbie View Post
    Thanks for your input bro.

    As for the yogurt, it was an easy way to get carbs. My wife buys those boxes of fat free yogurt that comes in tubes like a freeze pop, only it's yogurt. They are easy to eat and take on the run, etc. But I've already changed that up. The yogurt is mostly out now and carbs are coming from Ezekiel bread, fiber one cereal (plain, no milk) and I will be adding black beans and pinto beans into the mix.

    And I resumed taking fish oil a few days ago. I put a tbsp into a water bottle with a scoop of green drink and a tbsp of metamucil along with 1/4 tbsp of glutamine and a tbsp of creatine and sip it over a few hrs along with my usual several bottles of H20/day.

    My goal for the cycle is to drop some weight and recomp my body some. I realize I could do this without the var, using sound diet, cardio, and lifting alone but I think the var will improve my results over the same time period than I would get without the var.

    And your right, I hate my shoulders. As far as muscularity goes they are friggin weak as hell (I know I have a lame non muscular body anyway) and that is especially true because I have very broad shoulders and know if I am able to develop them they will be pretty friggin big based on my body size and frame.

    And of couse I hate my mid section. That is a main focus. I'm doing stomach vacuum exercises 3x/week and am going to hit my abs hard with weights twice a week. I've very excited about doing that on var. I think the first time I work my abs with a dumbbell on my chest/behind my head with var running through my veins I might cum

    I have not started the cycle yet and am down 4lbs since Monday with noticible change in the mirror. I'd like to drop 20 by the end of the cycle and do the best I can to get my abs/midsection as far along as I can regarding drop in waist size/fat as well as muscle development.
    you didn't catch my point regarding fats.. low fat yogurt is of no value in body building, nor in fat loss..

    don't eat it..

    and if you take a protein shake, don't mix it with low fat/no fat milk either..

    don't eat corn, carrots, or anything that is not low glycogen..

    and as for fruits, well, i don't take them when i am strict on my cutting which i don't do often other than to shock the body into change..

    fructose is a killer to your stated goals..

    hope that clarifies..

    one must consume fats (flax and olive, and fish oils) in order to lose fat
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    Quote Originally Posted by spywizard View Post
    you didn't catch my point regarding fats.. low fat yogurt is of no value in body building, nor in fat loss..

    don't eat it..

    and if you take a protein shake, don't mix it with low fat/no fat milk either..

    don't eat corn, carrots, or anything that is not low glycogen..

    and as for fruits, well, i don't take them when i am strict on my cutting which i don't do often other than to shock the body into change..

    fructose is a killer to your stated goals..

    hope that clarifies..

    one must consume fats (flax and olive, and fish oils) in order to lose fat
    Been on a diet based on high fat diet with carb cycling for about 2-3 weeks. I have already gained about 2 lbs and BF has gone down. Wouldn't have believed it until i tried it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spywizard View Post
    you didn't catch my point regarding fats.. low fat yogurt is of no value in body building, nor in fat loss

    don't eat it..
    OK, thanks. It's out.

    Quote Originally Posted by spywizard View Post
    and if you take a protein shake, don't mix it with low fat/no fat milk either..
    Thanks, I only take my shakes with spring water.


    Quote Originally Posted by spywizard View Post
    don't eat corn, carrots, or anything that is not low glycogen..
    I definitely don't know which veggies are low glycogen vs. high glycogen, I'm writing this in my notebook to look 'em up. Thanks. Once I have a list I'll get my wife to pick up the right stuff veggie wise. I ate a beef stew today she made and it had carrots in it. I need to figure this out, thanks for putting me on track here.

    I def don't eat enough veggies in general, It's been a weak point for decades basically.

    Quote Originally Posted by spywizard View Post
    and as for fruits, well, i don't take them when i am strict on my cutting which i don't do often other than to shock the body into change..

    fructose is a killer to your stated goals..

    hope that clarifies..
    Thanks. I'll look at the sugar content of the carbs I consume and try to knock them down.

    My fruit routine is:
    ~ 1/2 cup of either blueberries or strawberries with oats in the am, no milk. My understanding is that at least in the case of blueberries they are one of the best foods as far as natural anti-oxidants go.

    Would you recommend I cut the strawberries and just go with blueberreis, maybe go with blueberries 50% of the time and the other 50% up the oats and have no blueberreis, or cut out both and just up the oats?

    What is your take on consuming high fructose food immediately PWO before taking a protein shake in order to spike insulin levels to help shuttle protein/nutrients into the muscles? Is this contravertial? Is there value in it?

    My past routine was to eat 2 banana's or 1 banana and a handful of red seedless grapes while I was wrapping up my workout during the last couple sets and then take my shake when finnished.


    Quote Originally Posted by spywizard View Post
    one must consume fats (flax and olive, and fish oils) in order to lose fat
    Thanks, this I learned a few months ago. I eat natty pb, take fish oil, and extra virgin olive oil. Never tried flax. Should I get it? Do you go with the oil strictly or flax seeds or something too?

    I still need to figure out how much fat cal's I am taking per day, and how much I should be taking, as well as with which meals. My diet obviously isn't dialed in but I'm working on it. Thanks for the help.

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