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    Middle Aged Fattie + Anavar= ?

    I'm finally semi-retiring as Big's source checker and am going to run a cycle:

    Age- 41

    Height- 6'2"

    Weight- 250lbs.

    BF%- 28% (might be a bit overestimated or underestimated, not sure)

    Training experience-
    1. I helped my brother in law move three years ago (two houses) and it sucked, I hated it and my calfs were sore as hell for a few days
    2. 2 1/2 months training 1 body part/day 3 days/wk three
    months ago and abs 2 days/week on most weeks
    cardio- 10min/day on a stationary bike for the past 3
    days first thing in the morning on an empty stomach

    cycle experience- I used to own this sweet 3 speed with a
    banana seat and a gear shifter on the bar in front of the
    seat like a automatic car's gear shifter. It ruled!, trust me.
    Best cycle ever IMO!

    Diet- definitely sub par, not even close to dialed in. I eat fairly decent 5 days a week (I know there is a lot that can and should be changed and I should know my P/C/F %'s breakdown in addtion to cals) and like crap 2 days/wk.

    Sample 'good' (for me) day

    5:30am
    1 cup black coffee
    ~ 1 1/2 cups oats with either a handful of blueberries or
    strawberries, no milk

    8:30am
    3-4 egg whites or 1/3 tub of fat free cottage cheese 2-3 tubes of fat free yogurt

    11:30am
    2/3 tub of fat free cottage cheese 3 tubes fat free yogurt
    2 tbsp nat PB

    2:30pm
    1 sm. chicken breast or 1/2 large one, red potatos, onions, broccoli, extra virgin olive oil all in a stew

    4:00pm
    1-2 tubes of fat free yogurt or a banana or a small box of oat bran 170 cal's is the oat bran.

    5:30pm
    same stew as 2:30 or chicken with protein enriched pasta,
    oregano, 3 tbsp extra virgin olive oil

    8:30pm
    casein protein shake with water ~ 50grams protein

    sample bad day

    5:30am
    1 cup black coffee
    ~ 1 1/2 cups oats with either a handful of blueberries or
    strawberries, no milk

    8:30am
    3-4 egg whites or 1/3 tub of fat free cottage cheese 2-3 tubes of fat free yogurt

    10:00am
    potato chips
    carmelized nuts
    3 bad fake ass protein bars

    1:00pm
    5 slim jims
    1 chocolate candy bar (~1000 cal's)

    4:00pm
    5 more slim jims
    4 hot dogs

    7:30pm
    2 chicken sandwhiches on white bread with a lot of low fat or fat free mayo and 1/2 dozen pickle spears

    9:00pm
    1/2 chicken breast or a few tubes of fat free yogurt or a
    pizza or a plate of fairly bad fast food

    Drink about a gallon of water per day on good and bad days

    Training Plan:

    Workout equipment:
    Stationary bike with variable resistance 1-10, tracks distance, time, ect, etc,
    3 sets of dumb bells 35lbs, 45lbs, 55lbs,
    One of those big inflatable rubber balls you can use to
    work abs bending backwards more than just on a floor.
    That's it.

    Cardio: 5-7 days/wk HIIT on stationary bike build endurance up to 30-40 minutes in the am on empty stomach

    Weights: 3-4 days/wk 2-3 body parts day, 6 sets of 8-12
    reps/set per body part, abs 2x/week one day upper and
    lower, other day obliques.

    stomach vacuum 3 days/wk for at least 20 minutes

    Diet: balance out meals more on good days, add fish oil
    back into diet, bad days do the best I can to resist the
    garbage food I am around. I bring clean food with me but
    haven't been able to resist the garbage as of yet.

    Cycle:

    Anavar 45mg/day split into 3 15mg doses for 8-10 weeks
    Milk Thistle- not sure how much I should take
    IGF-LR3 I want to run it to assist with glucose disposal
    but AM administration is not an option. Current plan 60mg
    bi-laterally PWO for first 50 days of cycle
    Creatine pre workout
    Vitamin C 2-3g/day
    Pycnogonol 100mg/day
    Spirulina 3g/day
    Longjack 50x extraxt 3g/day something like 5 days on 2 days off or for first ~ 6 weeks daily
    High glycemic carbs PWO (ie. 2 large banana's, 1 banana
    and a big handful of red seedless grapes)
    and ~ 60g protein shake

    Will the LR3 administered PWO conflict with my intentions
    of spiking my insulin PWP? Suggested dosage change?

    Other option besides morning or PWO? Would not using it be better than using it as I plan to?

    PCT
    Nolva 20mg/day for ____ weeks ?

    These are the 'before' pics, what I look like now:

    http://s262.photobucket.com/albums/i...t=DSC00964.jpg

    http://s262.photobucket.com/albums/i...t=DSC00966.jpg

    This is the before-before pic, what I looked like a year ago (295lbs.):

    http://s262.photobucket.com/albums/i...nt=093-1-1.jpg

    What am I going to look like 3-4 months from now?

    what about 6-12 months from now (the real challenge IMO)?

    Who is the bookie around here? Anyone wanna lay some
    odds....

    All comments welcome, but if they are of the nature "you
    can and should slim with diet and cardio first, then gain
    muscle natty for a cpl years" you might as well really
    bust my balls or make it amusing b/c I'm going to run the
    anavar and understand that advice already. I am choosing
    to ignore it.

    If there is something you see that you think is actually
    dangerous or harmful about my plan please comment to let me know, I want to stay safe.

    Comments about supplements, diet, workout, etc are more
    than welcome whether you want to smite me or suggest a
    change somewhere, whatever.

    So blast away guys.
    Last edited by 40plusnewbie; 09-08-2008 at 11:30 AM.

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