'Official Postwhore Thread'

[Kratos]

absolutely

got any non pig or horse data?
or any data at all on eca on anti-catabolisim?

[warchild]

Well im going to run it for 9 weeks...

and I will do ben on week 3 and week 6 or as needed to sleep.

I found out that the clen doesnt do any effect on me until I am running at least 120 a day so I am going to start off there and go up to no more than 200 a day. then go down again as I am finishing my program.

140-160 is where you want to keep it, but give 200 a shot

[novastepp]

So how long you recommend running clen for?

my suggestion...

well, i wouldn't run clen. too many negatives that ive been exposed to in studies that i just stray from it. since you have made a decision to use... i would go 8 weeks.

i would use ECA. and i would run that as long as i cut. everyone bases their "receptor refreshing" information on word of mouth, however. it has useful properties when run long-term. and it still will produce an effect.

[Chode Logan]

I'm having fantastic results with ECA right now.

[Voland]

Kratos. About my mid term possibe cycle. I've been told by a friend who's cycled endless times that being my first the best will be to go hard on it.

This was my cycle
Cycle
Week 1-10: 150mg test p EOD
Week 1-10: liquidex (arimidex) 0.25mg ED
Week 1-10: finastride 1mg ED

PCT
Week 1-3: Clomid 100mg ED + Nolva 20mg ED
Week 4: Clomid 50mg ED + Nolva 10mg ED
Week 5: Nolva 10mg ED

I think that was abaout 500mgs of test p per week. How about 800mgs or 1000mgs, will that be waaay too much?

[novastepp]

got any non pig or horse data?
or any data at all on eca on anti-catabolisim?

i have studies about ECA, but regarding clen use, i only have negative information. i'll chat with GIANTS tonight and see if he can reforward me that info...

[Voland]

I'm having fantastic results with ECA right now.

WTF is ECA?

[mex83]

140-160 is where you want to keep it, but give 200 a shot

yeah i was doing 160 at the peak and damn thats when i started to get the insomnia and all the things that come with clen... but i was actually sweating a lot too when i was below 140 i didnt feel shit.

[Kratos]

my suggestion...

everyone bases their "receptor refreshing" information on word of mouth, however. it has useful properties when run long-term. .

not me, I think it's pure bull-shit
2 weeks on 2 weeks off is what I think works best. Clen makes me shake like a parkinsons patient and I won't use it anymore.

[novastepp]

Kratos. About my mid term possibe cycle. I've been told by a friend who's cycled endless times that being my first the best will be to go hard on it.

This was my cycle
Cycle
Week 1-10: 150mg test p EOD
Week 1-10: liquidex (arimidex) 0.25mg ED
Week 1-10: finastride 1mg ED

PCT
Week 1-3: Clomid 100mg ED + Nolva 20mg ED
Week 4: Clomid 50mg ED + Nolva 10mg ED
Week 5: Nolva 10mg ED

I think that was abaout 500mgs of test p per week. How about 800mgs or 1000mgs, will that be waaay too much?

why limit all of your estrogen? you will gain more if you start without the arimidex and fine..., use it only if you need it.

[Chode Logan]

WTF is ECA?

Ephedrine, Caffiene, Aspirin.

[Chode Logan]

PS hello everyone.

[mex83]

Nova I havea before picture let me getit from myspace

[Voland]

why limit all of your estrogen? you will gain more if you start without the arimidex and fine..., use it only if you need it.

kratos suggested me to use it cos acne, rage (i suffer from anxiety) and puffy nipps are 3 big concerns for me. I don't want any of those getting worse.

[novastepp]

not me, I think it's pure bull-shit
2 weeks on 2 weeks off is what I think works best. Clen makes me shake like a parkinsons patient and I won't use it anymore.

you talkin' about eca my man?

[Kratos]

Kratos. About my mid term possibe cycle. I've been told by a friend who's cycled endless times that being my first the best will be to go hard on it.

I think that was abaout 500mgs of test p per week. How about 800mgs or 1000mgs, will that be waaay too much?

525 a week of test P is plenty for a first cycle. That is going fairly hard on it. I would go with that.

[Voland]

Ephedrine, Caffiene, Aspirin.

Ok. 3 things i have ben explicitly told by doc not to take LOL.

[novastepp]

Nova I havea before picture let me getit from myspace

coolio.

kratos suggested me to use it cos acne, rage (i suffer from anxiety) and puffy nipps are 3 big concerns for me. I don't want any of those getting worse.

ok, then yeah, sounds like a sound idea. i dont think you need to be on a gram of test/week for your first cycle.

[Kratos]

you talkin' about eca my man?

I get confused what we are talking about sometimes...my attention span is like a goldfish.

[mex83]

Here you go Nova and everyone else.... the first pic is how i looked in Jan of this year and the second one is the one I took today.

[novastepp]

Ok. 3 things i have ben explicitly told by doc not to take LOL.

u have documented heart issues, or family history i'm guessing.

[novastepp]

mex, without good pics i can't tell much, but if you are losing, keep it up big guy. and hit the weights hard. no reason you cant add some lean mass...

[mex83]

that ECA sounds a lil too much for me....

[mex83]

mex, without good pics i can't tell much, but if you are losing, keep it up big guy. and hit the weights hard. no reason you cant add some lean mass...

oh.... hmmm what would good pics be ?

Full body pics?

[Chode Logan]

Mex, you look gay.






Hahahahaha, sorry. You look good my man, face has slimmed down for sure.

[novastepp]

I get confused what we are talking about sometimes...my attention span is like a goldfish.

i don't like clen, and i was saying i wouldnt use it.

but w/ eca, i would use 25g of ephedrine, baby aspirin (72mg???) and 200mg of caffeine 2-3x a day for 8 weeks.

[warchild]

strong work mex!

[Voland]

u have documented heart issues, or family history i'm guessing.

Nop. I've had an ulcer, so no aspirin, i have anxiety so no stimulants like caffeine, teine or efedrine, that can speed me up even more.

[novastepp]

oh.... hmmm what would good pics be ?

Full body pics?

i can only see it in your face is what i meant. full body would be awesome, results are what fuel us my man... good to hear and see you are enjoying yours

[Chode Logan]

ECA rules. Although sometimes it does feel like I'm ripped on disco biscuits if I take my doses too close together, it's all good. My workouts are intense, I barely rest between sets and the fat comes off really well.

[mex83]

Mex, you look gay.






Hahahahaha, sorry. You look good my man, face has slimmed down for sure.

yeah i look gay in the first one lol thats for sure... thats why I like my full on goatee and not just the bottom part.

thanks bro... thats what most people have told me I mean look at my first pic how my face is all round and my chin was starting to disappear...

[novastepp]

Nop. I've had an ulcer, so no aspirin, i have anxiety so no stimulants like caffeine, teine or efedrine, that can speed me up even more.

gotcha, yeah... no reason to work that problem even harder.

[mex83]

strong work mex!

Thanks man how you been?

[Chode Logan]

yeah i look gay in the first one lol thats for sure... thats why I like my full on goatee and not just the bottom part.

thanks bro... thats what most people have told me I mean look at my first pic how my face is all round and my chin was starting to disappear...

Haha I was just joking you don't really look gay at all.

And yeah for sure noticable. I get the same thing all the time, after losing all the weight. I definitely like my face sans pudge.

[novastepp]

on a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.

[warchild]

Thanks man how you been?

good man, yourself?

[mex83]

i can only see it in your face is what i meant. full body would be awesome, results are what fuel us my man... good to hear and see you are enjoying yours

yeah i have yet to take some full body pics.. I didnt have any full body pictures When I started but I did take some like in july i have them on my profile.... but i need to take some new ones.

[Voland]

gonna go for some dinner. I'll be back in 2 hours or so. Later guys!

[mex83]

good man, yourself?

just working dieting and working out like always my man.... trying hard every day.

[mex83]

Haha I was just joking you don't really look gay at all.

And yeah for sure noticable. I get the same thing all the time, after losing all the weight. I definitely like my face sans pudge.

I still think i look gay in the first pic lol... but thanks lol.