Quote Originally Posted by BrokenBricks View Post
I understand the confusion. But the first study does not compare whole protein supplementation to BCAA supplementation. The second does and clearly states that while BCAA is beneficial, it has no benefit ABOVE whole protein supplementation.

So the question is not "Do BCAA help near the time of workout?", the question is "Are BCAA superior to whole protien near the time of a workout?" or "Does adding BCAA to whole protein have a synergistic effect?"

Whey is converted to free aminos extremely quickly. It is possible, but not at all obvious or even expected, that the 30 minutes it takes to absorb the aminos from whole protein in the form of whey is suboptimal and that there is a benefit from *slightly* quicker absorption.

Per the study you quote.

"Ingestion of whole or intact protein sources (e.g., protein powders, meal-replacements) has been shown to cause similar improvements in protein balance after resistance exercise when compared to free amino acid supplements."


You lose a lot of credibility if you take the anecdotes of body builders who are simultaneously changing a dozen or more workout and diet variables, who are highly prone to placebo effects, over clinical trials. Review articles become outdated, clinical trials do not.

I'll read that link a bit later.
I lose credibility? Really?

The first study is confirming BCAA SUPPLEMENTATION aids in protein synthesis and recovery. So what if it doesnt compare it to whole food BCAA intake. WTF?

Seriously, stop getting caught up in bullshit studies done on few individuals in clinical trials/studies. Sometimes there not right.

I'll take real world results over clinical studies anyday. I used to think studies were the be all and end all, there not fortunately.

I'm beginning to think you either dont know what your talking about, or your splitting hairs for arguments sake. Probably both.

BCAA's, Dex, Creatine and Gutamine pre and post workout, then a solid meal 15-30mins after training.

Your disagreeing with something tried and tested for decades and your beginning to make yourself look even more foolish than you did with your first post, telling the poster to throw the supps in the trash.

I will not even waste my time any further with such stupid statements.

You've probably never even tried it.