Cheater...that's right...tips?

[novastepp]

some good responses, and some responses
by some puritans who think they know-it-all. I can guarantee I will never be divorced and neither I nor my wife will attempt to divorce the other. Just take my word for it. I know my relationship better than you.

thanks to those providing actual tips. Not really paying attention to all the "you'll be sorry" s. I been around the block, y'aint tellin me things i cant figure out.

I'm not going to tell you not to, or to go ahead and do it.

But I just want you to remember that when you say never or always, those words are tricky and sometimes very circumstantial and have no reference point.

I'm just saying be careful with what you plan on doing and be smart about it. I know you will, but don't get sloppy because you think things will always be the way they are and other things will never happen. stay sharp.

[beatango2008]

Dude, why would you want to cheat that is the most harsh thing you can do to someone, unless ofcourse she has cheated on you in the past. which in that case you shouldnt be with her anyway.

But if you proceed in this direction here is my advice:

1: Get a prepaid phone give her that number not your normal cell number. this way your girl doesnt catch on.

2: Never take her to your place or let her know where you work.

3on't tell any of your friends about it, because thats how rumors get started and your girl will find out in time.

4:Give her a fake name so she cant find you on myspace/facebook or anything else for that sort.

5: Don't take her places where you normaly take your girl.

But I would not do any of this, because it is just wrong. but then again I don't know your situation so there for I can't judge you. but you asked for advice and I gave it to you. Good luck

[JiGGaMaN]

Have you not seen what that does to some women when they find out? you are going to ruin your wife psychologically... if you dont even care about that then just divorce her. Be a man, not a bitch.

[amcon]

actually, i am looking for advice from people who dont have moral problems with it rather than receiving moral lessons from people who wouldn't approve. and lack of good sex is not the issue. but that's another story

any current or ex-cheaters out there?

dont do it, you'll regret it - trust me...

or do it get it out of you system and regret it for ever...

[scibble]

Have you not seen what that does to some women when they find out? you are going to ruin your wife psychologically... if you dont even care about that then just divorce her. Be a man, not a bitch.

please die

dont do it, you'll regret it - trust me...

or do it get it out of you system and regret it for ever...

please die horribly

[Ernst]

Kill the hooker when you're done. No one has to know.

[JiGGaMaN]

lol. well, you asked politely. what were you expecting to hear?

[JiGGaMaN]

Kill the hooker when you're done. No one has to know.

what are you going to say when a dude driving a 1970's cadillac shows up at the door wanting to know why you messin with his bidness?

[spywizard]

Accept that your marriage is over.. tell her, then move on.. but don't tell her until you have your money out of the checking account..

be a man..

[scibble]

in all seriousness, it will likely never happen. i'm much too decent, but it makes a wonderful fantasy sometimes.

on the other hand, one never knows... [cue evil MWA-HAHA-style laughter, heavy on the reverb]

[scibble]

Accept that your marriage is over.. tell her, then move on.. but don't tell her until you have your money out of the checking account..

be a man..

man some of you are real psychos.

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

Well, I've never cheated, just f'ed a friends girl. lol
Needless to say, we aren't friends anymore....
but me and his girl are! hahaha oh boy...

My advice, is basically don't get caught. What she doesn't know can't hurt her
But, know what you are doing, and know the consequences, and be prepared to deal with them if need be.


Don't ever bite off more than you can chew buddy.

[Bojangles69]

Just for the record.

For EVERYONE saying don't do it. Examine the facts.
For me, thinking about and planning something is nearly the same as doing it.

And YES, you can try or say w/e you want (to raise useless ethical disputes) but it means NOTHING. Why? Because at this point, if he WANTS to do it, he is GOING TO DO IT.

So yeh, calling him a "bitch" wtf. That doesn't help the situation, it gets your own personal anger off your own chest for what ever personal hangups you have on the issue of cheating.

But the way I see it (and of course I could be wrong).
I hook up with girls who have BFs. I also don't have a thread of care about married women (if I was a girl married men - nothing to do with gender).

The way I see it. Help perpetuate the situation.
How many times in your life have you told someone not to do something they wanted, when they were going to do it anyway. They aren't going to stop because you said they weren't a man or a bitch. It means absolutely nothing. Your intentions obviously aren't to stop the even from happening.

He said he KNOWS his situation. Doesn't matter if he does or doesn't realistically.
What DOES matter, is by you helping him, and in the event things aren't as he describes (like his wife actually being hurt or destroyed) THE FACT IS.

You are HELPING HIS WIFE by HELPING HIM.
Because YOU CAN'T STOP someone from doing something they already want to do.

But YOU CAN speed up or fastforward a situation, to SAVE TIME.
If you help him.
Same way you hook up with a girl who is married.

You speed up the chances of the end result happening quicker, w/e it is.
If he cheats, and she doesn't find out, NOTHING HAPPENS or changes for her. (thats reality)
If he cheats, and she does find out, you helping him helped her find out quicker, and nurtured the end result. You are in a way controlling the inevitable, by making it happen quicker.
End result = closure. End of situation. However it ends.
Girl friend breaks up with BF, bf is now smarter and will examine his future partners morals on the basis of actions in the future rather than words.
People become smarter, and learn how to not be "psychologically ruined" by shit like this, that happens every fvcking day, and people are so "no no" about it, rather than teaching the "victims", or w/e you want to call it, how to be stronger.

Stop spreading the notion of a perfect world.
Anarchy and nonconformists actually help this world in ways a lot of people could never understand. (mostly for strength and prevention - essential tools for living)

So CHEAT, it doesn't matter anyway.
Its not good or bad. Because some way, some how, SHIT, CRAP, BAD THINGS will always manifest in life.
Spread the notion of strength and wisdom, not the idea of controlling the future.

Realize how certain trends actually make situations worse.
Is him divorcing his wife going to make her feel better than him cheating and giving her an actual reason to seperate?
By her having a reason, she won't be left around for 10 years wondering why? (which is worse)
"Oh yeh, he cheated, I know why I left him" feels better than "He divorced me and I found out a week later he was screwing some chick".

Who the hell really belives she'll feel BETTER by the second situation?
If you try to stop him, you delay a situation, and extend the chance of an unhappy marraige (for the purist extremist who believe thats why people cheat) just from never ending.

So in conclusion, shit has a real wierd way of working out and never happens as anyone expects.
So why expect now you know what will happen? It makes no sense.
Help him cheat.
In reality it doesn't matter either way. Which is why when he asked for advice I simply thought "what I say to him is pretty much common sense, what anyone else says most likely isn't going to be some ground breaking shit either, so fvck it, lets just help him, and help the inevitable, otherwise I'm trying to battle natural forces of life, which NEVER fvcking works".

Thats just my philosophy.
Noones who is important is judging you scibble, because important people don't judge.

[scibble]

^^^ you have thus achieved a large portion of my respect by your wise words Sir Bo of Jangles. (i'm not suggesting my respect matters, just sayin') you are truly someone who can think for himself rather than one of the sheeple.

[scibble]

cheating is BAD - got it! (der-derka der)
bad things might happen - (o shit! really?)
i may feel guilty, I'm a horrible person, i'm a b1tch not a man LMAO

most of those dudes are half my age and never been married - it makes me laugh in a deprecating fashion.

i'd also say that my situation is, if not one of a kind, very very very rare and special. the details of that one of a kind special circumstance remain TOP Secret, Classified

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

But Bo has sex with poodles!

[scibble]

But Bo has sex with poodles!

hey dont judge! research increasingly reveals the emotional needs of animals are much greater than previously suspected. all G-ds creatures deserve LOVE!

[Ernst]

and poodles tell no "tails".

[Bojangles69]

LMAO! Thanks DJ Scibbles

And it was just one poodle.. who really was asking for it, those little white curls and tear stained eyes .. mm mm mm

[amcon]

please die



please die horribly

im not going to be so nice as jiggaman... listen bub - you ask i told you, you dont want my advise the next time dont post or post and state that you dont want my op.

as for die - your the looser that wants to cheat and hid it from you girl???? that makes you a big looser-

grow some balls and try to listen to what your mommy and daddy said growing up tell the truth...

i hope you cheat get caught and have to go through all the pain - i hope she is a veng-full woman that will put the hurt on you

dont do it -

[scibble]

^^^ loser

try reading the post title and the whole thread. could not be made more clear to a mentally challenged individual that i was asking for advice from cheaters or ex-cheaters (i feel safe in assuming that's not you) with regard to helping my evil quest. i also plainly mentioned that i'm not looking for your morality.

if you can't read, you shouldn't be posting. now go away before we send you to juvi. LOL

[amcon]

cheating is BAD - got it! (der-derka der)
bad things might happen - (o shit! really?)
i may feel guilty, I'm a horrible person, i'm a b1tch not a man LMAO

most of those dudes are half my age and never been married - it makes me laugh in a deprecating fashion.

i'd also say that my situation is, if not one of a kind, very very very rare and special. the details of that one of a kind special circumstance remain TOP Secret, Classified

thats bs... your trying to justify you wanted actions... (i hope the new girl has really bad breath)

im 37 - i cheated - and had the ball to tell my wife and beg for forgiveness!!! beg like a complete wuss- cause once i did what i did i realized how much i loved my family and more importantly i made a commitment and that came first after kids were involved... and trust me i went through 18 months of hell - hell -


go do it you act like you deserve it - just tell her first- puss

[fit4ever]

cheating is BAD - got it! (der-derka der)
bad things might happen - (o shit! really?)
i may feel guilty, I'm a horrible person, i'm a b1tch not a man LMAO

most of those dudes are half my age and never been married - it makes me laugh in a deprecating fashion.

i'd also say that my situation is, if not one of a kind, very very very rare and special. the details of that one of a kind special circumstance remain TOP Secret, Classified

I'll not frown upon you for whatever decision you to decide to make. I'm sure you're a good man. We all make poor decisions on occasion. It's only a mistake should your poor decisions become a trend.

Question: You mentioned above, "most of the dudes are half my age" and that it "makes you laugh". I just found a high degree of irony in that statement being that the young dudes are usually more susceptible of carrying out such a plan as yours. Not an older, more experienced, wiser man like yourself.

[amcon]

^^^ loser

im a looser read your post - superman - you sound like one of my children - with the attitude of i know i shouldnt have it but i want the lolly pop... picture tears and whining

[scibble]

thats bs... your trying to justify you wanted actions... (i hope the new girl has really bad breath)

im 37 - i cheated - and had the ball to tell my wife and beg for forgiveness!!! beg like a complete wuss- cause once i did what i did i realized how much i loved my family and more importantly i made a commitment and that came first after kids were involved... and trust me i went through 18 months of hell - hell -


go do it you act like you deserve it - just tell her first- puss

cool, not only are you obnoxious and like to post where you're not wanted, you a big frikkin HYPOCRITE!. cause you learned your lesson so you think you are ABSOLVED.

o...the unmitigated audacity of some people.

[scibble]

I'll not frown upon you for whatever decision you to decide to make. I'm sure you're a good man. We all make poor decisions on occasion. It's only a mistake should your poor decisions become a trend.

Question: You mentioned above, "most of the dudes are half my age" and that it "makes you laugh". I just found a high degree of irony in that statement being that the young dudes are usually more susceptible of carrying out such a plan as yours. Not an older, more experienced, wiser man like yourself.

hmmm....a serious response...good...GOOD!

see people who really want to contribute do so constructively and respectfully and get a dialogue going. now let's see....

i think that younger people are more susceptible to carry out such plans with poor planning and ignorance of the consequences. surely you dont think older people dont cheat? definitely they do. but "i laugh" when young people who've barely experienced adult life start passing judgment and spouting advice (not the type of advice requested, but advice meant to, as bo said, related to their own hangups and for release of anger) on things they have no experience upon which to give it.

[amcon]

^^^ loser

try reading the post title and the whole thread. could not be made more clear to a mentally challenged individual that i was asking for advice from cheaters or ex-cheaters (i feel safe in assuming that's not you) with regard to helping my evil quest. i also plainly mentioned that i'm not looking for your morality.

if you can't read, you shouldn't be posting. now go away before we send you to juvi. LOL

seems as if your sence of who you are talking to is as bad as your attitude -

you = wuss if you dont have the balls to tell you partner (prob a man right?)

i have done my evil and it isnt worth is end of story

let me give you a dif way of trying to absorb this...

you: hey i want to drink winny? any one have any experince with this? in dont car if i should do aas, and i dont care if it hurts the people around me!

some one who knows: dont do it

you : wa wa wa but u want to!!!

some one who knows: nope dont do it

you: more whining

some one who knows: seriously bro i know you want to make all the excuses of why you are dif but you can and shouldnt drink winny

you: more crying and more whining - im going to do it any ways im diff!!!!

be man and stop thinking that way or tell her and move along - smack smack

[amcon]

Now go to your room till i tell you to come out!

[Phate]

i've never cheated, only been cheated on once, but i'm not one to to judge other people as we're all human and fallible


so good luck with whatever decision you make

[fit4ever]

hmmm....a serious response...good...GOOD!

see people who really want to contribute do so constructively and respectfully and get a dialogue going. now let's see....

i think that younger people are more susceptible to carry out such plans with poor planning and ignorance of the consequences. surely you dont think older people dont cheat? definitely they do. but "i laugh" when young people who've barely experienced adult life start passing judgment and spouting advice (not the type of advice requested, but advice meant to, as bo said, related to their own hangups and for release of anger) on things they have no experience upon which to give it.

Understood. But don't confuse experience with knowledge. Because we're all "self smart" about everything. But those with experience bring much more to the table than those who have read something in a book or what have you.

[amcon]

cool, not only are you obnoxious and like to post where you're not wanted, you a big frikkin HYPOCRITE!. cause you learned your lesson so you think you are ABSOLVED.

o...the unmitigated audacity of some people.

YES I DO, cause i did it found out it was wrong ...

the big diff was i told my wife (the hardest thing im my life i have ever done - harder than loosing one of my children)

hypocrite - maybe - but for what telling you what you asked? and as for being absolved( To pronounce clear of guilt or blame.) not free of guilt just free of the pain of what i did cause i had the balls to admit my mistakes and take the consequences of my actions - like a man.

try to do the same

[scibble]

boppa do bop, boppa boppa do bop

there's simple little way to deal with abusive folk

(boppa do bop, boppa boppa do bop)

it's called hittin the ignore-user button and it works like thi-i-is

(boppa do bop, boppa boppa do bop)

you press it and suddenly
suddenly name calling stops

(boppa do bop, boppa boppa do bop)

LMAO, continue your rant, call me terrible names dude. Think you know it all. Others will maybe appreciate it, I will no longer see it. And maybe in the future, you can learn to play nice in the sandbox.

-end-

[amcon]

boppa do bop, boppa boppa do bop

there's simple little way to deal with abusive folk

(boppa do bop, boppa boppa do bop)

it's called hittin the ignore-user button and it works like thi-i-is

(boppa do bop, boppa boppa do bop)

you press it and suddenly
suddenly name calling stops

(boppa do bop, boppa boppa do bop)

LMAO, continue your rant, call me terrible names dude. Think you know it all. Others will maybe appreciate it, I will no longer see it. And maybe in the future, you can learn to play nice in the sandbox.

-end-

lol ... you asked for advise (or you just wanted a break from your horrible life) i gave it - you hammered me, i believe you statement was i should die... and your telling me i should play nice???? hummm ... that is just not what i expected.

start the fight i will finish it (i just kicked the dog and call her your name...)

and who told you that you could come out of your room yet?????!!!!!! if i hear you one more time ... just one more time i am going to take you wii away for a week!!

[amcon]

and as for name calling - oops - i got a little irritated, are you ok?

[scibble]

imagine an extreme case in which you are married to a woman who has been in a terrible accident. she is completely incapacitated and confined to bed for the rest of her life. she has no family to care for her, no means of support. she has no means of obtaining health care (take that as a GIVEN). imagine that situation. would you tell her that your marriage is over? that you dont love her anymore? let her go and end up in the worst possible situations a human being can be found? even if you wanted to play around with another girl? and let's add that your wife is not only confined to bed, but her mind is gone too.

or would you stick by her through thick and thin and swear to take care of her personally for the rest of her life no matter what?

most people are incredulous that i am that committed. be careful before you say what you'd do in such a situation because it's a lot easier to say it until you find yourself there.

[amcon]

agreed... tell her how you are feeling(i understand that her mind is gone)- cry a lot while telling her, pray, get councling, that is the right thing to do - imo

[Kale]

Ignore the puritans and take Bojangles advice, its the best so far. If you do this a lot it gets stressful, trust me I know and unless you are a Mossad agent you will make a mistake somewhere along the line, but just remember one thing, you are only guilty if YOU say you are guilty !!!

[Kale]

imagine an extreme case in which you are married to a woman who has been in a terrible accident. she is completely incapacitated and confined to bed for the rest of her life. she has no family to care for her, no means of support. she has no means of obtaining health care (take that as a GIVEN). imagine that situation. would you tell her that your marriage is over? that you dont love her anymore? let her go and end up in the worst possible situations a human being can be found? even if you wanted to play around with another girl? and let's add that your wife is not only confined to bed, but her mind is gone too.

or would you stick by her through thick and thin and swear to take care of her personally for the rest of her life no matter what?

most people are incredulous that i am that committed. be careful before you say what you'd do in such a situation because it's a lot easier to say it until you find yourself there.

Is that your situation ?

[amcon]

Ignore the puritans and take Bojangles advice, its the best so far. If you do this a lot it gets stressful, trust me I know and unless you are a Mossad agent you will make a mistake somewhere along the line, but just remember one thing, you are only guilty if YOU say you are guilty !!!

ya thats what i thought till i dabbled and realized what i did and couldnt live with my actions to deceive. its all about morels, and doing the right thing...

all the neg crap set aside i wish you the best of luck... do the right thing

[Doc M]

boppa do bop, boppa boppa do bop

there's simple little way to deal with abusive folk

(boppa do bop, boppa boppa do bop)

it's called hittin the ignore-user button and it works like thi-i-is

(boppa do bop, boppa boppa do bop)

you press it and suddenly
suddenly name calling stops

(boppa do bop, boppa boppa do bop)

LMAO, continue your rant, call me terrible names dude. Think you know it all. Others will maybe appreciate it, I will no longer see it. And maybe in the future, you can learn to play nice in the sandbox.

-end-

OK!! Enough out of both of you, you are both sounding ridiculous with the responses. If you can't play ball with this thread, move on to another as there are probably a million plus threads to read here! Enough said!!

Now, Scibble-

You have to admit, your question is a little odd. If your wife is so cool and is never going to leave you, why not sit her down and just tell her your intentions and why you want to be with another woman? What's the point of going all CIA with the situation if there are apparently no consequences for you?

I'm not judging you because quite frankly I don't care. You're not cheating on my sister or my daughter so you have to wrestle with the moral side of it, not us. But you sound like you have a passive wife who will never stand up to you, no matter what you do. So why make up this lie just to get laid?

I'm married, have had way too many affairs. Nothing you are going to do is something I haven't already done. I have to deal with the guilt and shame of having to look my faithful and loving wife in the eye everyday knowing what I did. Hell, I don't even have an excuse for what I did, she is the best I have EVER had in bed and I could get it literally every night. So as you can see, I don't have a reason, I just do it to play out some ego based need for attention and excitement. Is it worth it, in the end, honestly NO! But do what you gotta do and don't worry about what a bunch of guys from a steroid board say. It's your choice and ultimately your guilt.

Let me give you an example of what can happen. About 8 months ago I start seeing this 24 year old physical therapist, whom I have met through my wife. Me, wife, and young girl, and girls fiance start hanging out, dinner , drinks, etc. It's all great! This girl is one of the most attractive women I have ever seen and if you knew me, that is a bold statement. So, Doc gets crazy one day and sends young girl an email and just flat out tell her what I want, what the deal will be, etc. Perfect set up. Wife is very much like yours and short of murdering her, she will never leave me because that is her personality. Long story short, 8 months later, I have serious feelings for this girl, have a child, don't want to leave my wife, all the shit that comes along with an affair.

Two months ago I am literally getting ready to fly to Italy, wife finds out I sent young girl flowers, wife comes home from hospital to confront me, I am in the bedroom in my underwear, while she is yelling at me, young girl strolls in like it's nobody's business and bot women start throwing hand grenades at me while I am in the bed under the covers hiding. And when I say hiding, I am a grown man and afraid to get out of the bed and try to leave the room.

Moral of the story, in the end, as fun as the affair can be, it's just not worth it. Do what you want but just realize that there is always going to be some type of repercussion when you take a risk like that. So enough said, do what you want and good luck!

Doc M