thinking of going on hrt

[ZonaDave]

Great point ZonaDave, and most doctors make it worse by simply telling you that you are "depressed" (shit yeah youre depressed, your brain is starving for TEST). I had no reasons for depression. I was not psychologically depressed, just chemically.
They'll try to put you on some bullshit anti-depressant when its not the problem. Or ED drugs, or whatever. I went through 8 doctors before one finally said, DAMN, your TEST is low!
Its so obvious in hindsight, but I suffered for YEARS, because of this. Nearly lost my job and had a huge negative effect on my relationship with my girl. Imagine saying "NO" 100% of the time because you are so tired you cant go out and do something with your woman. That can only fly for so long. Im pissed off at docs right now.

your not alone bro! all the stories on here sound very similar. i was in your situation before i started TRT. the doc that first suggested i had low T was an idiot but at least he put that thought in my head and i started doing research. before that i never heard of guys being low on T!

you'll soon forget how bad you feel.

[rctriplefresh5]

ok so i got tested again under ''perfect'' conditions. i got my total test tested again 30 minutes after waking up, it came back at 470, (266-1000) and my free test was 73.9 (50-210)
first test was 270 (244-890)
so i have an average total test of 470 plus 270 =370 average..and then 73.9 out of 50-210 free test.

well thats not low and totally normal. and forget that bullcrap about beeing a teen and must be in 600's: those are ranges. everybody is different and just because you are a teen doesn t mean you have to be in those high numbers. and btw: its more about sensitivity of your androgen receptors in your cells. so pls, it s not that easy...

good that you got those numbers checked again otherwise you d be a teenager on hrt for life with no reason...

I think the question really is, are you actually/really symptomatic?
I definitely had symptoms when my test hit 429.
I could only sleep 4 hours a night.
I could only work out 2 twice a week and it would take a full 3-4 days to recover from a moderate workout.
I was exhausted 24/7. No energy, none. I only exercised because of sheer will and forcing myself to every week.
Constant depression from feeling tired 24/7
Doing my desk job became very difficult.
I would often pass out for 2 hours in the middle of the work day.
And thats at 429!!!

I just started TRT after my TEST hit about 270. At this level, I didnt want to live to the rest of my life like this. If there was no solution, I would have ended up suicidal in a couple of years.

People who can still exercise/lift 5-7 times a week have no idea what low TRT really is IMHO.

I could barely handle a 20 min slow walk with my girlfriend without crashing and passing out afterwards! Imagine simply walking a mile seeming like a herculean effort.
Or at its worst, getting off the couch seeming a lot harder than running 5 miles when I was 20 years old. Its crippling.

yes i pretty much have all of those symptoms man. also the 473 reading was taken 30 minutes after i woke up so that was the highest psossible basically. so im in between 270 and 470. also my free test is pretty low imo. i mean 50-210, and im at 73 lol. plus im convinced my doctors office is full of idiots. im like wow so my range jumped up 200 points i guess thats because itook this one within 30 minutes of waking upo. SHE SAID IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT TIME OF DAY YOU GET THE TEST DONE.....UM TEST IS HIGHEST IN THE MORNINGS.... anyway, i am waiting for my mri results to come back, and if i dont have a tumor, im going to go to a stomach doctor(because ive had ongoing stomach problems) if all that comes back fine, im going to start taking hrts.

even worse, think of how many guys go most of their lives like that and never get proper treatment or any treatment at all. especially because they were "in range".

i wonder how many of those cases lead to suicide?

damn

Great point ZonaDave, and most doctors make it worse by simply telling you that you are "depressed" (shit yeah youre depressed, your brain is starving for TEST). I had no reasons for depression. I was not psychologically depressed, just chemically.
They'll try to put you on some bullshit anti-depressant when its not the problem. Or ED drugs, or whatever. I went through 8 doctors before one finally said, DAMN, your TEST is low!
Its so obvious in hindsight, but I suffered for YEARS, because of this. Nearly lost my job and had a huge negative effect on my relationship with my girl. Imagine saying "NO" 100% of the time because you are so tired you cant go out and do something with your woman. That can only fly for so long. Im pissed off at docs right now.

DUDE my dad asks me to shut the lights off in the house, or take out the trash and i say no. i feel like a dick, but i just dont want to do it. i always thought i was a c****, but i have no desire to do my hw either. ill basically manage my week to do homework a on friday, hw b on sat so on, and trhen copme monday ill be doing all my hw assignments at 10 pm and then sleepping late because i was too lazy to do them before hand and shit.

my dad is worried that test will make me agressive, because im kind of aggressive to him now. but i have read that low test causes psychological problems, and raising test raises endorphins causing you to feel happier.

one more symptom i have s im scared of fighting people. i had this 5'2 120 pound kid who could squat 115 2 inches on the smith machine come up to me and start shit with me, and i was scareed of him. im 6'1 and although i only weigh 165 i can curl more than he squats with good forms. AND IWAS SCARED OF HIM. he was a ginger kid too. i think that has something to do with low test lol.

your not alone bro! all the stories on here sound very similar. i was in your situation before i started TRT. the doc that first suggested i had low T was an idiot but at least he put that thought in my head and i started doing research. before that i never heard of guys being low on T!

you'll soon forget how bad you feel.

the doctor im going to see has been on tv, radios, and has his own books. he says injections are the only way to go, and from what ive heard hes right. only thing thats weird is he prefers once every 3 week injections instead of 1/week