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    I USE MILK THISTLE YEAR ROUND !! Regardless if I am on CYCLE or not... IT HAS NEVER DIMINISHED any GAINS that I know of from it's use while using it with the multitude of orals that I have put into my body... then again... I wouldnt know the difference would I??

    Seeings how... since I used it with them and have never used them without it I dont know what kinda gains I would have achieved had I not been eating milk thistle ... so i guess it COULD inhibit gains but since I have gained just FINE and my LIVER is in PRIMO condtion... I dont see why people wouldnt just take the MILK tHistle as a PREVENTATIVE measure, ya know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deuce View Post
    I USE MILK THISTLE YEAR ROUND !! Regardless if I am on CYCLE or not... IT HAS NEVER DIMINISHED any GAINS that I know of from it's use while using it with the multitude of orals that I have put into my body... then again... I wouldnt know the difference would I??

    Seeings how... since I used it with them and have never used them without it I dont know what kinda gains I would have achieved had I not been eating milk thistle ... so i guess it COULD inhibit gains but since I have gained just FINE and my LIVER is in PRIMO condtion... I dont see why people wouldnt just take the MILK tHistle as a PREVENTATIVE measure, ya know?

    good point bro. what dose of milk thistle do you take? i might just use it during the cycle as a preventative measure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azz10 View Post
    good point bro. What dose of milk thistle do you take? I might just use it during the cycle as a preventative measure.
    hi azzo did you start yout cycle as yet..am taking milk thistle 4 capsules ed and it seems to be ok...am on my second week..wt up 2kgs..

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    milk thistle is overrated, any herbs are going to have very low bioavailability if taken orally. i cant see it hurting gains or helping the liver much either

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerliftmike View Post
    milk thistle is overrated, any herbs are going to have very low bioavailability if taken orally. i cant see it hurting gains or helping the liver much either
    I disagree with that.
    A while back leading into a PL comp my liver values jumped sky high, to the point where I was having to go for ultrasounds. Being 6 weeks out I didnt want to get off so I started loading up on the milk thistle and Fish Oils (was already taking them, just uped the dose). Week of the comp I had bloods done again and they were still high, but nearly a third less then they previously were. Nothing else was changed in my diet and I actually ADDED halo that week.

    Now days I dont run orals except for the week of my comps but like The Deuce I still run milk thistle year round. I do use Tren quite often and that seems to inderectly raise liver toxicity levels so I believe it helps keep that to a minimum.

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    I also take it and I am not on any GEAR .. but I do take all this over counter stuff...
    Muliti vitamin, creatin , lots o protein , b complex , zma stack, andro , some trib, motrin when i need it , efa caps , and some glutamine..
    takin a bunch of pils a day , it can only help process it all

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    Quote Originally Posted by azz10 View Post
    good point bro. what dose of milk thistle do you take? i might just use it during the cycle as a preventative measure.
    175mgs 5 times per day... 1 Pill with every meal... I eat 7 times a day technically.. 2 of the 7 times though are protein shakes and I don't take the MilkThis with them.. only when I ingest real food ya know?? so it equals out to 875mgs ED.

    Quote Originally Posted by powerliftmike View Post
    milk thistle is overrated, any herbs are going to have very low bioavailability if taken orally. i cant see it hurting gains or helping the liver much either
    I wouldn't say overrated.. because well it isn't something that EVERYONE swears by, but I know from BLOOD TESTS... that it does in FACT help out with the regeneration of LIVER CELLS. A must for any AAS user that uses heavy orals (PH too) like Drol, Dbol, Winstrol, and Halo.

    Is it something that I advocate that everyone take all the time everyday and if you dont your liver will shut down?? No.. but I will say this... IT'S VERY VERY CHEAP.. and what it does do... is worth the $7 dollar price tag.

    Quote Originally Posted by SmittyTheOX View Post
    I disagree with that.
    A while back leading into a PL comp my liver values jumped sky high, to the point where I was having to go for ultrasounds. Being 6 weeks out I didnt want to get off so I started loading up on the milk thistle and Fish Oils (was already taking them, just uped the dose). Week of the comp I had bloods done again and they were still high, but nearly a third less then they previously were. Nothing else was changed in my diet and I actually ADDED halo that week.

    Now days I dont run orals except for the week of my comps but like The Deuce I still run milk thistle year round. I do use Tren quite often and that seems to inderectly raise liver toxicity levels so I believe it helps keep that to a minimum.
    Wow see thats awesome.. it's good to hear that it helped you out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ganu View Post
    hi azzo did you start yout cycle as yet..am taking milk thistle 4 capsules ed and it seems to be ok...am on my second week..wt up 2kgs..

    Hey ganu, yeh i've just started my cycle about 2 days ago. guess i'll see the results soon enough. haha. got myself some milk thistle so might just pop some daily. like what the rest says, it aint gonna hurt..

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    Quote Originally Posted by azz10 View Post
    Hey ganu, yeh i've just started my cycle about 2 days ago. guess i'll see the results soon enough. haha. got myself some milk thistle so might just pop some daily. like what the rest says, it aint gonna hurt..
    did you check my first week blood work..the lipids gonna fluctuate..so make sure you taking the flaxeed oil caps/policosanol/e/c/ for lipids..and niacin for pct...keep us updated about the gains and the sides if any

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