Ok, time to clear the air on AAS use for those under 25

[Immortal Soldier]

First of all, you grew up in a completely different time-period. The internet wasn't even invented probably when you began cycling. The newfound spread of info has allowed for people to at least get SOLID information on how to run a proper cycle, while doing the least amount of damage to their HPTA / bodies.

So explain to us why, since you are from the "internet age" and you came to this board with all this information that we fed you yet you still ran back to back cycles.

So that goes to show you even those who support the notion (You) that waiting till 25 is too much, cannot even cycle properly. Kind of ironic is it not? That you talk all this big talk about how there is so information and sites like this that will help people cycle properly and limit any damage to the HPTA, yet using you as a case example shows thats not true.

Now see there are two types of steroid users on this board:

There are the ones who have done 5+ cycles and are barely over 200lbs

Then there are the ones who have done 2-3 cycles and have MAXIMIZED their potential.

Hell in my first cycle I blew away most people who are on their 3rd or 4th even 5th cycle. And alot of these people weren't old or anything, they are 21 or 22-23 and they have ran that many cycles.

[seriousmass]

So explain to us why, since you are from the "internet age" and you came to this board with all this information that we fed you yet you still ran back to back cycles.

So that goes to show you even those who support the notion (You) that waiting till 25 is too much, cannot even cycle properly. Kind of ironic is it not? That you talk all this big talk about how there is so information and sites like this that will help people cycle properly and limit any damage to the HPTA, yet using you as a case example shows thats not true.

Now see there are two types of steroid users on this board:

There are the ones who have done 5+ cycles and are barely over 200lbs

Then there are the ones who have done 2-3 cycles and have MAXIMIZED their potential.

Hell in my first cycle I blew away most people who are on their 3rd or 4th even 5th cycle. And alot of these people weren't old or anything, they are 21 or 22-23 and they have ran that many cycles.

See this is where I can't stand you. You always have to come in and spit out your utter bullsh*t. I mean honestly, who are you to talk? lol. You cruise and blast, so please don't attempt to lecture me about the "healthiest" method for your body.

We were having a debate. You obviously didn't even read the entire thread. Just trying to kick up drama, as usual.

BTW, what I did was NOT particularly terrible. I cycled, finished PCT, and then cycled again. But hey, I also had 6 blood-tests done in that time period. Oh, and P.S. got my test levels checked, and they are completely back to normal range currently; not to mention, my growth plates have not fused closed as of yet. So honestly, I wouldn't go lecturing me from a medical standpoint, because I've got the BW results / X-rays to prove that I'm fine. But you on the other hand... not so much bro.

Peace.

[Immortal Soldier]

See this is where I can't stand you. You always have to come in and spit out your utter bullsh*t. I mean honestly, who are you to talk? lol. You cruise and blast, so please don't attempt to lecture me about the "healthiest" method for your body.

We were having a debate. You obviously didn't even read the entire thread. Just trying to kick up drama, as usual.

BTW, what I did was NOT particularly terrible. I cycled, finished PCT, and then cycled again. But hey, I also had 6 blood-tests done in that time period. Oh, and P.S. got my test levels checked, and they are completely back to normal range currently; not to mention, my growth plates have not fused closed as of yet. So honestly, I wouldn't go lecturing me from a medical standpoint, because I've got the BW results / X-rays to prove that I'm fine. But you on the other hand... not so much bro.

Peace.

Obviously you missed the point as I am sure it went over your head. The whole "debate" you had, I read don't worry about that part a bunch of abusers trying to convince others its ok. It's just that you, as a spokesman for the "internet age" say how someone can "cycle properly" with all the information available to them (such as sites like this), but you are a walking/talking irony with what you done. Obviously, you don't understand steroids and its effects if you think back to back cycles are not "that bad". But its ok man cling to your bloodtests and X-ray results (LOL) because I am sure you will be following in my footsteps with the way you are carrying yourself now.

I don't care when someone starts cycling, if someone thinks that being 6'2 168lbs and 20 years old is the right time to go and cycle then so be it. It's your body, all I can give is advice that maybe people should consider since I have been there. See the mind is a beautiful thing, from psychological standpoint it tries to justify the decisions it made, and that is whats going on in this thread. Those who started young are trying to justify why its alright, in hopes of vindication and easing their conscience. The problem here is what applies to you doesn't apply to the general public and its when those who feel the need to justified themselves in inadvertently give way for others to follow their footsteps. The Blind leading the Blind.

[seriousmass]

Obviously you missed the point as I am sure it went over your head. The whole "debate" you had, I read don't worry about that part a bunch of abusers trying to convince others its ok. It's just that you, as a spokesman for the "internet age" say how someone can "cycle properly" with all the information available to them (such as sites like this), but you are a walking/talking irony with what you done. Obviously, you don't understand steroids and its effects if you think back to back cycles are not "that bad". But its ok man cling to your bloodtests and X-ray results (LOL) because I am sure you will be following in my footsteps with the way you are carrying yourself now.

I don't care when someone starts cycling, if someone thinks that being 6'2 168lbs and 20 years old is the right time to go and cycle then so be it. It's your body, all I can give is advice that maybe people should consider since I have been there. See the mind is a beautiful thing, from psychological standpoint it tries to justify the decisions it made, and that is whats going on in this thread. Those who started young are trying to justify why its alright, in hopes of vindication and easing their conscience. The problem here is what applies to you doesn't apply to the general public and its when those who feel the need to justified themselves in inadvertently give way for others to follow their footsteps. The Blind leading the Blind.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Psychoanalyzing a kid with a social-psych degree.

Too funny.

[Immortal Soldier]

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Psychoanalyzing a kid with a social-psych degree.

Too funny.

*sigh*

Actually I wasn't psychoanalyzing you because to psychoanalyze someone you would need to know more about them besides what a few posts on a internet forum. Once again the point I tried to make went over your head since you thought I was personally trying to "get into your mind", when reality I was speaking about the whole stance of those in this thread who were pro-use below 25 and how many try to justify their actions for using. The mind will also try to justify the decisions it makes as the right one and will bring up facts to support it regardless if it subconsciously leaves ones that would tarnish its position aside.

This thread is turning into a problem that is between you and me and since I don't want to derail this thread if you wish to discuss this matter further I suggest you PM me.

[Schmidty]

So explain to us why, since you are from the "internet age" and you came to this board with all this information that we fed you yet you still ran back to back cycles.

So that goes to show you even those who support the notion (You) that waiting till 25 is too much, cannot even cycle properly. Kind of ironic is it not? That you talk all this big talk about how there is so information and sites like this that will help people cycle properly and limit any damage to the HPTA, yet using you as a case example shows thats not true.

Now see there are two types of steroid users on this board:

There are the ones who have done 5+ cycles and are barely over 200lbs

Then there are the ones who have done 2-3 cycles and have MAXIMIZED their potential.

Hell in my first cycle I blew away most people who are on their 3rd or 4th even 5th cycle. And alot of these people weren't old or anything, they are 21 or 22-23 and they have ran that many cycles.

lol hey hey hey now 200lbs for my short frame is alot u asshole lol and iv done idk 3or4 good cycles and 3 or 4 little 4wkrs back when i first starteded.