LMAO @ the UK

[MuscleScience]

Don't you worry, Americans will do little more than the English. Americans are already being bombarded with this sick and twisted ideology of "Be tolerant of others culture and beliefs".."Diversity is good"...so you should allow this filth whatever they wish all the while allowing your culture and beliefs to be trampled on.


"Yes we can"

Ugg, I hate the establishment telling me I have to think all cultures and their beliefs are equal. Cultures that cut women genitals off are not cultures I want me or my family to associate with, just for example.

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

Ugg, I hate the establishment telling me I have to think all cultures and their beliefs are equal. Cultures that cut women genitals off are not cultures I want me or my family to associate with, just for example.

exactly.

[Panzerfaust]

Ugg, I hate the establishment telling me I have to think all cultures and their beliefs are equal. Cultures that cut women genitals off are not cultures I want me or my family to associate with, just for example.

Let me make this clear, I respect their culture and religion. It is there's and they can have it...just keep it to yourself and keep it in your sandbox over there.

When you impose it on non-muslim nations, then you should be eradicated with extreme prejudice.

[Flagg]

A lot of those sources are from The Mail and I despise that Newspaper immensely. Along with The Sun, they are the two most hate filled xenophobic fear mongering pieces of tat out there.

Thing is, you have to read between the lines. Yes, a lot of Muslims are getting all this extra PC Treatment, but these newspapers encourage the general public to be afraid, to be xenophobic.

The media is whats wrong with democracy in todays world. They tell us to be afraid of stuff like this, so it makes the "war on terror" seem just. They bombard us with this sort of stuff and then tell us what is happening in American Idol this week on the next page. They will tell us that all our soldiers, British and American are all 100% heroes and the thought of one of soldiers commiting a crime is beyond immagination. And then they will tell us how unacceptable it is for one of our soldiers to die.

[Flagg]

Every now and again i'll read The Guardian and see whats happening on http://news.bbc.co.uk/ but beyond that I won't believe a single thing uttered else where.

[Matt]

Every now and again i'll read The Guardian and see whats happening on http://news.bbc.co.uk/ but beyond that I won't believe a single thing uttered else where.

Yeah i understand what your saying lol i know for a fact that the prison thing is just aload of shit, we all have a say when it comes to sharing a cell with someone we dont like..

But things like the three little pigs, man that made me a tad angry...

[Flagg]

Yeah i understand what your saying lol i know for a fact that the prison thing is just aload of shit, we all have a say when it comes to sharing a cell with someone we dont like..

But things like the three little pigs, man that made me a tad angry...

Yeah stuff like that pisses me off. I mean its a kids nursery rhyme. Its the same when the Goliwog was taken off Jam Jars because of who it might upset. I mean what's next, pork banned in the UK cause that's where it'll ****ing go next. Muslims might get upset at someone eating a bacon sarnie.

[Older lifter]

Let me make this clear, I respect their culture and religion. It is there's and they can have it...just keep it to yourself and keep it in your sandbox over there.

When you impose it on non-muslim nations, then you should be eradicated with extreme prejudice.

I have worked all over the world for 17 years, lived with many cultures and what i now believe is that i don't respect other so called cultures, I can acept that they do things there way but why should i respect what i don't think is right. Example: while working in Iraq i travelled out from Basra each day, there as an area where people waited for contract work in the morning, after that area there was another one where they picked up there little boys for the day "women are for making babies, boys are for pleasure" i was told, it's our culture etc etc. Respect it NO, acept that it's what they have done for a long time, yes.

I had to acept this and many other things while working in these countries, But i want the same when they come to ours. I was told over and over you can't wear shorts while working as it offends the people,,,ok, women needed to wear burka's while out in the street there,,,ok. So why can't we say that these things offend us in our countries when they come here, I don't like seeing a burka on a woman in my country and we should be able to say it........ Hate to say this but France seems to be the only place that is growing some balls......

[MuscleScience]

I have worked all over the world for 17 years, lived with many cultures and what i now believe is that i don't respect other so called cultures, I can acept that they do things there way but why should i respect what i don't think is right. Example: while working in Iraq i travelled out from Basra each day, there as an area where people waited for contract work in the morning, after that area there was another one where they picked up there little boys for the day "women are for making babies, boys are for pleasure" i was told, it's our culture etc etc. Respect it NO, acept that it's what they have done for a long time, yes.

I had to acept this and many other things while working in these countries, But i want the same when they come to ours. I was told over and over you can't wear shorts while working as it offends the people,,,ok, women needed to wear burka's while out in the street there,,,ok. So why can't we say that these things offend us in our countries when they come here, I don't like seeing a burka on a woman in my country and we should be able to say it........ Hate to say this but France seems to be the only place that is growing some balls......

There is an oxymoron if I have ever heard one!!!

[Undercover]

Some many wrong things posted in this thread. I don't even know where to start.

Let me make this clear, I respect their culture and religion. It is there's and they can have it...just keep it to yourself and keep it in your sandbox over there.

When you impose it on non-muslim nations, then you should be eradicated with extreme prejudice.

wow that was very xenophobic and close-minded.

You don't realise that you're just as bad as the muslims who want to be treated differently. Both sides have to work for integration to happen.

The things mentioned in the articles you posted, true or not, are horrible. I'm pretty sure, though, that most muslims in the UK have no idea. So why get angry and start calling people scum and pleading for mass eradication? Dangerous way of thinking. Nazis had that very same idea about Jews. THEY'RE TAKING OVER! OH GOD SOMEONE STOP THEM! and I guess we all know how that story ended.

What the News SHOULDN'T DO is demonise this, turn people into hate fearing xenophobes. What the news should do is condemn the MP that would try and pass a certain law. The Telegraph and Mail are both very dubious sources.

Precisely.

After all thats all they are . They dont belong . And if they dont like the laws fvck off back to your own country .

lol wtf. they're not visitors, they're citizens. now if you're suggesting that 'real' citizens have to be white.....

Example: while working in Iraq i travelled out from Basra each day, there as an area where people waited for contract work in the morning, after that area there was another one where they picked up there little boys for the day "women are for making babies, boys are for pleasure" i was told, it's our culture etc etc. Respect it NO, acept that it's what they have done for a long time, yes.

How is that part of the culture? you don't judge cultures based on the sayings of a paedophile.

I was told over and over you can't wear shorts while working as it offends the people,,,ok, women needed to wear burka's while out in the street there,,,ok. So why can't we say that these things offend us in our countries when they come here, I don't like seeing a burka on a woman in my country

It's not the same thing. Anything you wear that's above the knee is considered offensive in Islam. Are burkas offensive to your culture? If that were the case, they would have banned ghost costumes in Halloween a long time ago. It just annoys you because it's a muslim woman under the burka....latent intolerance.

Having said that, I do think it's retarded that someone asked you to wear pants while you work. What year and what country was it?


Seriously guys, I have to say I'm truly disappointed. The Daily Mail and BNP? Since when is white nationalism cool again?

[MuscleScience]

Some many wrong things posted in this thread. I don't even know where to start.



wow that was very xenophobic and close-minded.

You don't realise that you're just as bad as the muslims who want to be treated differently. Both sides have to work for integration to happen.

The things mentioned in the articles you posted, true or not, are horrible. I'm pretty sure, though, that most muslims in the UK have no idea. So why get angry and start calling people scum and pleading for mass eradication? Dangerous way of thinking. Nazis had that very same idea about Jews. THEY'RE TAKING OVER! OH GOD SOMEONE STOP THEM! and I guess we all know how that story ended.



Precisely.



lol wtf. they're not visitors, they're citizens. now if you're suggesting that 'real' citizens have to be white.....



How is that part of the culture? you don't judge cultures based on the sayings of a paedophile.



It's not the same thing. Anything you wear that's above the knee is considered offensive in Islam. Are burkas offensive to your culture? If that were the case, they would have banned ghost costumes in Halloween a long time ago. It just annoys you because it's a muslim woman under the burka....latent intolerance.

Having said that, I do think it's retarded that someone asked you to wear pants while you work. What year and what country was it?


Seriously guys, I have to say I'm truly disappointed. The Daily Mail and BNP? Since when is white nationalism cool again?

It hasnt been cool to be white in a long time, I think that is where a lot of outrage and anger come from. Being white and proud is not only not cool it gets labeled as racist. Frankly White people are sick and tired of being demonized by everyone including other bleeding heart whites.

[BgMc31]

It hasnt been cool to be white in a long time, I think that is where a lot of outrage and anger come from. Being white and proud is not only not cool it gets labeled as racist. Frankly White people are sick and tired of being demonized by everyone including other bleeding heart whites.

That's not true. Being a supremacists is labeled as racist. Whites try to make that assertion all the time, but it's simply not true. Demonizing others and criticizing other's beliefs and cultures because it's different, labeling it inferior makes it racists or xenophobic.

Minorities don't mind whites being proud of their cultures. Eminem is still cool, Tom Brady is still the coolest cat in the NFL, whites still make more money than anybody else. There are many organizations that whites have that aren't racists organization and they express pride for their cultures (Knights of Columbus, Scottish Clan Societies, etc.).

Whites for years have been telling minorities for years to get over the past and stop bitching. It's time you practiced what you preach. Chris Rock said it best, "What are you complaining about....YOU'RE WHITE!!!" LOL!!!!

[MuscleScience]

That's not true. Being a supremacists is labeled as racist. Whites try to make that assertion all the time, but it's simply not true. Demonizing others and criticizing other's beliefs and cultures because it's different, labeling it inferior makes it racists or xenophobic.

Minorities don't mind whites being proud of their cultures. Eminem is still cool, Tom Brady is still the coolest cat in the NFL, whites still make more money than anybody else. There are many organizations that whites have that aren't racists organization and they express pride for their cultures (Knights of Columbus, Scottish Clan Societies, etc.).

Whites for years have been telling minorities for years to get over the past and stop bitching. It's time you practiced what you preach. Chris Rock said it best, "What are you complaining about....YOU'RE WHITE!!!" LOL!!!!

I disagree, you cant display that your a proud white male and not seem like a supremacist. The worst thing you can call someone in America is a racist and it gets thrown at people way to fast. No matter how you try to argue with me I cant agree sorry. Eminem is white but most white people dont really view him as White America at all, at least me and my peers dont. And Tom Brady is a complete cheese dick, no one can stand him...LOL

[Undercover]

That's because it's really stupid to be proud of your race...any race. Why are you proud of being white? You are only white because you were born white. You certainly didn't work your way to being white. So why are you proud?

I also find it silly when minorities' [INSERT RACE HERE] PRIDE is tolerated, while white pride is considered racist. Both are equally dumb, and the reasons why one would be more tolerable, are, without a doubt, political.

[MuscleScience]

That's because it's really stupid to be proud of your race...any race. Why are you proud of being white? You are only white because you were born white. You certainly didn't work your way to being white. So why are you proud?

I also find it silly when minorities' [INSERT RACE HERE] PRIDE is tolerated, while white pride is considered racist. Both are equally dumb, and the reasons why one would be more tolerable, are, without a doubt, political.

Thats not true, my ancestors where white, worked hard to make a life for them and there children. They worked hard at being part of a greater society as a whole. I see no luck involved, if they my ancestors were not doing something right then I would not be alive to be proud of who I am. I am proud of who I am because the of the people before were who they were. If they were black, asian, native american or whatever I would feel the same way. Being apathetic to ones own race is worse in my view than being a racist. Being apathetic is how one loses their cultural identity and to me that is disrespecting all those ancestors before you. Thats just how I feel though, someone can call me racist if you want I dont really care.

[Undercover]

Thats not true, my ancestors where white, worked hard to make a life for them and there children. They worked hard at being part of a greater society as a whole. I see no luck involved, if they my ancestors were not doing something right then I would not be alive to be proud of who I am. I am proud of who I am because the of the people before were who they were. If they were black, asian, native american or whatever I would feel the same way. Being apathetic to ones own race is worse in my view than being a racist. Being apathetic is how one loses their cultural identity and to me that is disrespecting all those ancestors before you. Thats just how I feel though, someone can call me racist if you want I dont really care.

Your ancestors are white and not black because of luck.

If you are going to be proud no matter who your ancestors were, it doesn't make sense to be proud of your race.

Your ancestors worked for their society and not you. You didn't do anything to contribute. What you can be proud of is the society and other socities you lived in, because you're a contributing member.

To make things clearer, think about this. Your ancestors slaughtered and enslaved people. Do you feel guilty all the time about being white? No? but why? I'm sure your answer would be "because I had nothing to do with it". Well, there you go. Being proud or "apathetic" (as you put it) are both equally dumb.

[Panzerfaust]

Some many wrong things posted in this thread. I don't even know where to start.



wow that was very xenophobic and close-minded.

You don't realise that you're just as bad as the muslims who want to be treated differently. Both sides have to work for integration to happen.

The things mentioned in the articles you posted, true or not, are horrible. I'm pretty sure, though, that most muslims in the UK have no idea. So why get angry and start calling people scum and pleading for mass eradication? Dangerous way of thinking. Nazis had that very same idea about Jews. THEY'RE TAKING OVER! OH GOD SOMEONE STOP THEM! and I guess we all know how that story ended.

Ok, I would like to see how you would react for a family of Muslims to move into your house and start pushing their Sharia horseshit on you....oh I bet you would just love that shit wouldn't you?

This whole world is a ***** basket, minus maybe the Asian countries. Who let's foreign scum come in and literally change your way of life? lol

It's not as if these Muslims move to the UK and want to assimilate into English culture, no they want to move there and infest it with their bullshit ideology.

Big difference there, sorry you fail to see that.


The English are completely spineless and are enjoying taking it in the ass by these sand eating ****s.


I have no problem with their religion or how they treat each other, it is their religion and I respect that. Just keep it over there in that pile of ****ing sand in the Middle East.

[Undercover]

Ok, I would like to see how you would react for a family of Muslims to move into your house and start pushing their Sharia horseshit on you....oh I bet you would just love that shit wouldn't you?

This whole world is a ***** basket, minus maybe the Asian countries. Who let's foreign scum come in and literally change your way of life? lol

It's not as if these Muslims move to the UK and want to assimilate into English culture, no they want to move there and infest it with their bullshit ideology.

Big difference there, sorry you fail to see that.


The English are completely spineless and are enjoying taking it in the ass by these sand eating ****s.


I have no problem with their religion or how they treat each other, it is their religion and I respect that. Just keep it over there in that pile of ****ing sand in the Middle East.

Thank you for proving my point. If you go over the thread, you will see what I mean. You really just need an excuse to hate people whose culture is different...especially Muslims, now that everybody is nearly over Jews and all. If that weren't true, your poor insults and mad generalizations wouldn't have been there. All point to extreme islamophobia btw.I especially liked the one about the ME being a pile of sand. Have ever even been there? What amazes me is that you're not even directly affected by this, and yet you're determined to think Muslims are planning world domination.

I will not argue with you. Arguing with intolerant bigots leads to nowhere. But good luck finding a way to deal with your anger, because European Muslims are going nowhere.

[dangerous dan]

Thank you for proving my point. If you go over the thread, you will see what I mean. You really just need an excuse to hate people whose culture is different...especially Muslims, now that everybody is nearly over Jews and all. If that weren't true, your poor insults and mad generalizations wouldn't have been there. All point to extreme islamophobia btw.I especially liked the one about the ME being a pile of sand. Have ever even been there? What amazes me is that you're not even directly affected by this, and yet you're determined to think Muslims are planning world domination.

I will not argue with you. Arguing with intolerant bigots leads to nowhere. But good luck finding a way to deal with your anger, because European Muslims are going nowhere.

your an idiot, we dont hate other peoples cultures, we just dont like them trying to force it on us, or change ours.... wake up!!!

[Undercover]

your an idiot, we dont hate other peoples cultures, we just dont like them trying to force it on us, or change ours.... wake up!!!

You're generalizing because you're islamophobic looking for excuses to hate Muslims.

Tell me, how many Muslims do you know? Nobody is trying to force beliefs on you. There are bigots in every culture, and you sir are one of them.

The Runnymede report identified eight perceptions related to Islamophobia:

1. Islam is seen as a monolithic bloc, static and unresponsive to change.
2. It is seen as separate and "other." It does not have values in common with other cultures, is not affected by them and does not influence them.
3. It is seen as inferior to the West. It is seen as barbaric, irrational, primitive, and sexist.
4. It is seen as violent, aggressive, threatening, supportive of terrorism, and engaged in a clash of civilizations.
5. It is seen as a political ideology, used for political or military advantage.
6. Criticisms made of "the West" by Muslims are rejected out of hand.
7. Hostility towards Islam is used to justify discriminatory practices towards Muslims and exclusion of Muslims from mainstream society.
8. Anti-Muslim hostility is seen as natural and normal

Yup, that pretty much covers you both (and a few other idiots) that posted in this thread.

[Panzerfaust]

your an idiot, we dont hate other peoples cultures, we just dont like them trying to force it on us, or change ours.... wake up!!!

Don't waste your breath, these types are so blind they cannot even begin to comprehend what we are truly trying to say so they stick to the "you hate an entire race", "racist" bla bla bla

Sure, I use harsh words but these are harsh times and some asses need kicked. It's not a pretty job but someone certainly needs to do it and do it quickly and thoroughly.

[Panzerfaust]

Thank you for proving my point. If you go over the thread, you will see what I mean. You really just need an excuse to hate people whose culture is different...especially Muslims, now that everybody is nearly over Jews and all. If that weren't true, your poor insults and mad generalizations wouldn't have been there. All point to extreme islamophobia btw.I especially liked the one about the ME being a pile of sand. Have ever even been there? What amazes me is that you're not even directly affected by this, and yet you're determined to think Muslims are planning world domination.

I will not argue with you. Arguing with intolerant bigots leads to nowhere. But good luck finding a way to deal with your anger, because European Muslims are going nowhere.

Nope, I am not arguing with anyone let alone you. You were never considered someone with enough common sense to communicate with. Move along sheep!