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    Quote Originally Posted by Undercover View Post
    Some many wrong things posted in this thread. I don't even know where to start.



    wow that was very xenophobic and close-minded.

    You don't realise that you're just as bad as the muslims who want to be treated differently. Both sides have to work for integration to happen.

    The things mentioned in the articles you posted, true or not, are horrible. I'm pretty sure, though, that most muslims in the UK have no idea. So why get angry and start calling people scum and pleading for mass eradication? Dangerous way of thinking. Nazis had that very same idea about Jews. THEY'RE TAKING OVER! OH GOD SOMEONE STOP THEM! and I guess we all know how that story ended.

    Ok, I would like to see how you would react for a family of Muslims to move into your house and start pushing their Sharia horseshit on you....oh I bet you would just love that shit wouldn't you?

    This whole world is a ***** basket, minus maybe the Asian countries. Who let's foreign scum come in and literally change your way of life? lol

    It's not as if these Muslims move to the UK and want to assimilate into English culture, no they want to move there and infest it with their bullshit ideology.

    Big difference there, sorry you fail to see that.


    The English are completely spineless and are enjoying taking it in the ass by these sand eating ****s.


    I have no problem with their religion or how they treat each other, it is their religion and I respect that. Just keep it over there in that pile of ****ing sand in the Middle East.
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    Quote Originally Posted by muriloninja View Post
    Ok, I would like to see how you would react for a family of Muslims to move into your house and start pushing their Sharia horseshit on you....oh I bet you would just love that shit wouldn't you?

    This whole world is a ***** basket, minus maybe the Asian countries. Who let's foreign scum come in and literally change your way of life? lol

    It's not as if these Muslims move to the UK and want to assimilate into English culture, no they want to move there and infest it with their bullshit ideology.

    Big difference there, sorry you fail to see that.


    The English are completely spineless and are enjoying taking it in the ass by these sand eating ****s.


    I have no problem with their religion or how they treat each other, it is their religion and I respect that. Just keep it over there in that pile of ****ing sand in the Middle East.
    Thank you for proving my point. If you go over the thread, you will see what I mean. You really just need an excuse to hate people whose culture is different...especially Muslims, now that everybody is nearly over Jews and all. If that weren't true, your poor insults and mad generalizations wouldn't have been there. All point to extreme islamophobia btw.I especially liked the one about the ME being a pile of sand. Have ever even been there? What amazes me is that you're not even directly affected by this, and yet you're determined to think Muslims are planning world domination.

    I will not argue with you. Arguing with intolerant bigots leads to nowhere. But good luck finding a way to deal with your anger, because European Muslims are going nowhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Undercover View Post
    Thank you for proving my point. If you go over the thread, you will see what I mean. You really just need an excuse to hate people whose culture is different...especially Muslims, now that everybody is nearly over Jews and all. If that weren't true, your poor insults and mad generalizations wouldn't have been there. All point to extreme islamophobia btw.I especially liked the one about the ME being a pile of sand. Have ever even been there? What amazes me is that you're not even directly affected by this, and yet you're determined to think Muslims are planning world domination.

    I will not argue with you. Arguing with intolerant bigots leads to nowhere. But good luck finding a way to deal with your anger, because European Muslims are going nowhere.
    your an idiot, we dont hate other peoples cultures, we just dont like them trying to force it on us, or change ours.... wake up!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dangerous dan;482***6
    your an idiot, we dont hate other peoples cultures, we just dont like them trying to force it on us, or change ours.... wake up!!!
    You're generalizing because you're islamophobic looking for excuses to hate Muslims.

    Tell me, how many Muslims do you know? Nobody is trying to force beliefs on you. There are bigots in every culture, and you sir are one of them.

    The Runnymede report identified eight perceptions related to Islamophobia:

    1. Islam is seen as a monolithic bloc, static and unresponsive to change.
    2. It is seen as separate and "other." It does not have values in common with other cultures, is not affected by them and does not influence them.
    3. It is seen as inferior to the West. It is seen as barbaric, irrational, primitive, and sexist.
    4. It is seen as violent, aggressive, threatening, supportive of terrorism, and engaged in a clash of civilizations.
    5. It is seen as a political ideology, used for political or military advantage.
    6. Criticisms made of "the West" by Muslims are rejected out of hand.
    7. Hostility towards Islam is used to justify discriminatory practices towards Muslims and exclusion of Muslims from mainstream society.
    8. Anti-Muslim hostility is seen as natural and normal
    Yup, that pretty much covers you both (and a few other idiots) that posted in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Undercover View Post
    You're generalizing because you're islamophobic looking for excuses to hate Muslims.

    Tell me, how many Muslims do you know? Nobody is trying to force beliefs on you. There are bigots in every culture, and you sir are one of them.



    Yup, that pretty much covers you both (and a few other idiots) that posted in this thread.
    So if they had not used derrogatory remarks then they would not be guilty of 'islamophobia'. That's a funny word, sounds like something liberals invented. Kinda like the neo-cons that invented "Islamofascistextremism." That's another bullshit word.

    I don't see anything wrong with saying that immigrant cultures should assimilate into the culture of the land they're living in. The most notable aggravation would be those that fail to learn the language. I certainly don't think Americans should ever have to "Push 1 for English." There was in fact a prominent article about how Mexican immigrants are vehemently against assimilating as a whole. I am just weary of labeling people as you have done above, because often it turns into "I'm calling you a name because I dont agree with your politics/position/policy." For instance, Neo-cons calling people who disagree with foreign wars "unamerican," and liberals labeling people who oppose Barack Obama as President as "racists & bigots."

    I personally don't like to use derogatory remarks when engaging in an argument, it makes the argument much less credible. However, there is certainly documented evidence of immigrant cultures resisting assimilation in their new home country, and that is definitely a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegodfather View Post
    So if they had not used derrogatory remarks then they would not be guilty of 'islamophobia'. That's a funny word, sounds like something liberals invented. Kinda like the neo-cons that invented "Islamofascistextremism." That's another bullshit word.

    I don't see anything wrong with saying that immigrant cultures should assimilate into the culture of the land they're living in. The most notable aggravation would be those that fail to learn the language. I certainly don't think Americans should ever have to "Push 1 for English." There was in fact a prominent article about how Mexican immigrants are vehemently against assimilating as a whole. I am just weary of labeling people as you have done above, because often it turns into "I'm calling you a name because I dont agree with your politics/position/policy." For instance, Neo-cons calling people who disagree with foreign wars "unamerican," and liberals labeling people who oppose Barack Obama as President as "racists & bigots."

    I personally don't like to use derogatory remarks when engaging in an argument, it makes the argument much less credible. However, there is certainly documented evidence of immigrant cultures resisting assimilation in their new home country, and that is definitely a problem.
    Perceptions of Islamophobia were in my last post (they don't include overuse of petty insults).

    Islamophobia is just a newly coined term for islamic culture-specific xenophobia. Just because they have a term for it now doesn't mean it's 'those damn liberals' who did it, and it certainly doesn't make it any less real..xenophobia isn't made up. So, I don't see why you're pissed with me using the term.

    For the second bolded part, you have to read what I said in the thread. Never claimed immigrants shouldn't adapt, actually I said the exact opposite and made some pretty good points that they seemed to ignore.

    I never doubted certain immigrants have trouble integrating; it's only natural. Generalizations and 'demonization' of immigrants is not helping though. I don't know of any Muslim that cringes when he heards the word 'pig'.

    Degratory remarks? So you think someone who supports the BNP and thinks all immigrants should be eradicated isn't a bigot? If you think I used the word 'bigot' to strengthen my argument, you're way off. Do me a favor and read my thread. I only said I wouldn't argue anymore because I kept getting the same bigotry over and over. That is, after all, the definition of a bigot.

    Quote Originally Posted by D7M
    Good post GodFather.

    Undercover....are you surreptitiously BuffedGuy? He used to throw around that Islmaphobe crap all the time, too.
    No, don't know the guy.

    Would you be happy if I start using "islam-specific xenophobia" instead? You guys are funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegodfather View Post
    So if they had not used derrogatory remarks then they would not be guilty of 'islamophobia'. That's a funny word, sounds like something liberals invented. Kinda like the neo-cons that invented "Islamofascistextremism." That's another bullshit word.

    I don't see anything wrong with saying that immigrant cultures should assimilate into the culture of the land they're living in. The most notable aggravation would be those that fail to learn the language. I certainly don't think Americans should ever have to "Push 1 for English." There was in fact a prominent article about how Mexican immigrants are vehemently against assimilating as a whole. I am just weary of labeling people as you have done above, because often it turns into "I'm calling you a name because I dont agree with your politics/position/policy." For instance, Neo-cons calling people who disagree with foreign wars "unamerican," and liberals labeling people who oppose Barack Obama as President as "racists & bigots."

    I personally don't like to use derogatory remarks when engaging in an argument, it makes the argument much less credible. However, there is certainly documented evidence of immigrant cultures resisting assimilation in their new home country, and that is definitely a problem.

    Yeah look at the white immigrants that the Mexican Government let move freely and without restrictions into Texas. That didnt turn out so well for Mexico, prime example of what can happens if a new population does not assimilate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dangerous dan;482***6
    your an idiot, we dont hate other peoples cultures, we just dont like them trying to force it on us, or change ours.... wake up!!!
    Don't waste your breath, these types are so blind they cannot even begin to comprehend what we are truly trying to say so they stick to the "you hate an entire race", "racist" bla bla bla

    Sure, I use harsh words but these are harsh times and some asses need kicked. It's not a pretty job but someone certainly needs to do it and do it quickly and thoroughly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Undercover View Post
    Thank you for proving my point. If you go over the thread, you will see what I mean. You really just need an excuse to hate people whose culture is different...especially Muslims, now that everybody is nearly over Jews and all. If that weren't true, your poor insults and mad generalizations wouldn't have been there. All point to extreme islamophobia btw.I especially liked the one about the ME being a pile of sand. Have ever even been there? What amazes me is that you're not even directly affected by this, and yet you're determined to think Muslims are planning world domination.

    I will not argue with you. Arguing with intolerant bigots leads to nowhere. But good luck finding a way to deal with your anger, because European Muslims are going nowhere.


    Nope, I am not arguing with anyone let alone you. You were never considered someone with enough common sense to communicate with. Move along sheep!
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