1st Cycle and Hideaway to Others?

[BJJ]

By the end of Sep I'll start my cycle of only test e 500mg EW 10 or 12 W, I'll decide during progress.

I wanted to know if, by your experiences, it is possible to hide the use of aas in a first cycle to the people around you. Especially in the gym and on the mat.

[ninesecz]

I do not know why you would care if anyone knows! But if you do the cycle correctly and eat and train right, it should be pretty hard to hide! Why else would you have gained 15-30# in a 12 week period?

[redz]

Just tell people you are on creatine. Seriously who cares?

[BJJ]

I see your point but when you are known because of your job, then it is not a good idea to lie on what it seems clear to all.
That's why I am concerned, because I don't want to lie.

[C-MaN]

Go to gnc or where ever buy some stupid supplement and then make a HUGE deal to all of your friends about how ur going to start taking it.... seems stupid but it actually works well.

[redz]

I`m in a professional environment and no one asks me if I`m on juice they just know I workout alot. I have had drastically different physiques throught working here for 4 years with no one really questioning anything.

[Vitruvian-Man]

I see your point but when you are known because of your job, then it is not a good idea to lie on what it seems clear to all.
That's why I am concerned, because I don't want to lie.

Bro.. 99% chances are you aren't going to gain like 40 pounds on your first cycle. If you're lucky you'll put on 15 - 20 pounds in that 3 month period.. that's not necessarily THAT much weight. Not to mention chances are you'll lose 1/2 of that after PCT.. IMO, People will joke around and be like "oh man are you juicing it"... but just laugh it off, and say "no way man, it's winter.. time to eat and bulk up bro!" -- haha something like that..

Go to gnc or where ever buy some stupid supplement and then make a HUGE deal to all of your friends about how ur going to start taking it.... seems stupid but it actually works well.

x2

I used to do this when I was younger

Just start talking about creatine.. and BCAA's all the time. You'll trick them into thinking you're some sort of bodybuilding guru. lol

[gunslinger2]

When you roll keep your GI top on. People you are on the mat with will notice a big difference.


By the way, we are going to be starting our cycles at about the same time.

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

Started a new diet and creatine

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

Oh and make it 12 weeks, not 10.

[gunslinger2]

Started a new diet and creatine

No, gopher milk and whey protein.

[BJJ]

I deal with people to experienced to say something like that and also too grown up.

x2

That's what I thought after all, I can manage 20 pounds at first and 10 at the end.

x3

I thought about reducing the cycle to 10 weeks not to exaggerate with the increase.
But why are you telling me that? for the same reason I previously thought?

[Hazard]

Just tell them you started swallowing your own semen for the protein and it's working wonders......

LMAO..... they wont ask you about juice again..... LOL

~Haz~

[BJJ]

Sorry I made a mistake and I am gonna fix it right away.

[BJJ]

Bro.. 99% chances are you aren't going to gain like 40 pounds on your first cycle. If you're lucky you'll put on 15 - 20 pounds in that 3 month period.. that's not necessarily THAT much weight. Not to mention chances are you'll lose 1/2 of that after PCT.. IMO, People will joke around and be like "oh man are you juicing it"... but just laugh it off, and say "no way man, it's winter.. time to eat and bulk up bro!" -- haha something like that..



x2

I used to do this when I was younger

Just start talking about creatine.. and BCAA's all the time. You'll trick them into thinking you're some sort of bodybuilding guru. lol

Oh and make it 12 weeks, not 10.

Go to gnc or where ever buy some stupid supplement and then make a HUGE deal to all of your friends about how ur going to start taking it.... seems stupid but it actually works well.

I deal with people to experienced to say something like that and also too grown up.

[BJJ]

I don't know what I am doing who I am replying to, I apologize! F...

[BJJ]

Go to gnc or where ever buy some stupid supplement and then make a HUGE deal to all of your friends about how ur going to start taking it.... seems stupid but it actually works well.

OK I got it.

I deal with people to experienced to say something like that and also too grown up.

[BJJ]

Bro.. 99% chances are you aren't going to gain like 40 pounds on your first cycle. If you're lucky you'll put on 15 - 20 pounds in that 3 month period.. that's not necessarily THAT much weight. Not to mention chances are you'll lose 1/2 of that after PCT.. IMO, People will joke around and be like "oh man are you juicing it"... but just laugh it off, and say "no way man, it's winter.. time to eat and bulk up bro!" -- haha something like that..



x2

I used to do this when I was younger

Just start talking about creatine.. and BCAA's all the time. You'll trick them into thinking you're some sort of bodybuilding guru. lol

That's what I thought after all, I can manage 20 pounds at first and 10 at the end.

[BJJ]

Oh and make it 12 weeks, not 10.

I thought about reducing the cycle to 10 weeks not to exaggerate with the increase.
But why are you telling me that? for the same reason I previously thought?

[Hazard]

I would run the 12 weeks..... You're going to look more full for sure. Honestly.... just tell them you started N0Xplode along with an Mdrol and Spawn stack. Tell them what I tell my brother in law.... "I'm eating prohormones like chicklets..... LOL..... i fill up the cereal bowl with em in the morning and goto town"

If they're THAT persistant..... get angry and defensive..... then ask them to please stop. It's no-one else's business and you shouldn't be ashamed of it.....

~Haz~

[BJJ]

Just tell them you started swallowing your own semen for the protein and it's working wonders......

LMAO..... they wont ask you about juice again..... LOL

~Haz~

That's for sure... I'll do it with some asshole I know!

[BJJ]

When you roll keep your GI top on. People you are on the mat with will notice a big difference.


By the way, we are going to be starting our cycles at about the same time.

1. What do you mean my GI top on? Of course I keep it on when I train or fight, otherwise it would be grappling... pls explain.

2. Then we should keep in touch and help one another. Don't you think?

[BJJ]

I would run the 12 weeks..... You're going to look more full for sure. Honestly.... just tell them you started N0Xplode along with an Mdrol and Spawn stack. Tell them what I tell my brother in law.... "I'm eating prohormones like chicklets..... LOL..... i fill up the cereal bowl with em in the morning and goto town"

If they're THAT persistant..... get angry and defensive..... then ask them to please stop. It's no-one else's business and you shouldn't be ashamed of it.....

~Haz~

Well actually I am not ashamed, after all I live my life freely without caring about other's thoughts, unless I have to learn of course.
In this case is different because if somebody trust in you and care about your opinion but at the same time this person has a developed brain, I cannot hust lie since I, probably, would lose his/her own trust.

Anyway, I'll see once I start to grow... if I start to grow!

[gunslinger2]

1. What do you mean my GI top on? Of course I keep it on when I train or fight, otherwise it would be grappling... pls explain.

2. Then we should keep in touch and help one another. Don't you think?

Some people like to train no gi sometimes, like the MMA guys I train with. I look a lot smaller with a gi on than with just a rash guard.


I agree, I think we should keep in touch. We have a lot in common here.

[BJJ]

Some people like to train no gi sometimes, like the MMA guys I train with. I look a lot smaller with a gi on than with just a rash guard.


I agree, I think we should keep in touch. We have a lot in common here.

I see now I understood.
I'll let you know when I start.

[G-Dog82]

Mate depends on your size and workout routine now..... I did my first cycle earlier in the year and didn't tell my misses and i'm a PT so didn't want my clients knowing i was on gear.

Some people might ask if your on gear, but just deny if you really don't want people knowing. Just sell the dream on creatine a test booster, training and eating is your life.

However if you are a skinny rake and you put 20lbs on, people will put 2 + 2 together....

Stuff them, let them think what they want....

[Hazard]

Well actually I am not ashamed, after all I live my life freely without caring about other's thoughts, unless I have to learn of course.
In this case is different because if somebody trust in you and care about your opinion but at the same time this person has a developed brain, I cannot hust lie since I, probably, would lose his/her own trust.

Anyway, I'll see once I start to grow... if I start to grow!

I uderstand what you are saying but if they aren't there for the injection they can't prove you used steroids. One can put on 10-15 lbs with prohormones.... everyone responds differently.

Tell them you don't use gear..... and leave it at that. There is NO WAY for them to prove it..... therefore - they can't 100% know for sure.

If you can't lie out of god conscience or you don't want to admit it to them then don't run the gear.....

~Haz~

[ninesecz]

I am different I guess. If I am on and people ask me i just say.. "what do you think?" Inhope they say yeh, It is a nioce compliment! I am only week 4 into my cycle right now and have already been asked by everyone! I actually talk to my parents about it and my GF does my shots for me! Anyone else "F U N K Them!! It is your life and it is no ones business what you do with your life and your body! But why would you care if they know! It is not like you are a crack addict or shooting heroin 8X a day!! I nhope by the end of this cycle it is not even close to be able to be denied! I am already busting out of all of my 2XL shirts right now and at 270# with a 36.5" waist and 14% BF it is only going to get bigger! I am planning on being 280# with a 35" waist and 12-13% BF by the end! I really am not at all interested if people think I am onm, And I know I am looking great and only will be looking better so what do i care!

[Dog-Slime]

I see your point but when you are known because of your job, then it is not a good idea to lie on what it seems clear to all.
That's why I am concerned, because I don't want to lie.

Brock Lesnar doesn't use steroids... I know this because he said so.

[gunslinger2]

Pretty sure he does not anymore.

[sizerp]

If anyone questions your use, tell them you stopped doing Yoga, and hired a personal chef.

[BJJ]

If anyone questions your use, tell them you stopped doing Yoga, and hired a personal chef.

that's a good one!

[BJJ]

I uderstand what you are saying but if they aren't there for the injection they can't prove you used steroids. One can put on 10-15 lbs with prohormones.... everyone responds differently.

Tell them you don't use gear..... and leave it at that. There is NO WAY for them to prove it..... therefore - they can't 100% know for sure.

If you can't lie out of god conscience or you don't want to admit it to them then don't run the gear.....

~Haz~

If you can't lie out of god conscience or you don't want to admit it to them then don't run the gear.....

No No No
Not doing something because of a moral thought!? It would be an affront to my brain.
I was an idealist man once... then I started to travel, now I am not anymore! This is a F.....G World and I am one of those who can scream it out because I have seen the world wide and beheld things which make me "vomit" if I recall them to my memory!!!
So, no more idealisms.

[Hazard]

If you can't lie out of god conscience or you don't want to admit it to them then don't run the gear.....

No No No
Not doing something because of a moral thought!? It would be an affront to my brain.
I was an idealist man once... then I started to travel, now I am not anymore! This is a F.....G World and I am one of those who can scream it out because I have seen the world wide and beheld things which make me "vomit" if I recall them to my memory!!!
So, no more idealisms.

eh?

And i meant good conscience* not GOD conscience.....

~Haz~

[BJJ]

eh?

And i meant good conscience* not GOD conscience.....

~Haz~

If you believe in a life after this bad one, then you cannot avoid considering THEY ARE RELATED?

[Hazard]

sorry man..... you lost me lol.

All i'm saying is..... If you don't want anyone to know and/or if it bothers you to lie..... then don't run the gear. Simply because - people probably will ask..... and if the gains aren't noticable enough for people to notice..... why even bother? know what I mean?

~Haz~

[vaders4]

Dude you're way over thinking this..

People you see everyday are not going to notice the drastic change as much as someone you only see once every other month.

People I see everyday notice I've been gaining weight, but don't say much after that.

People I haven't seen in 2-3 months, and I run into them at a bar, or a social event have an extremely different reaction. They usually say "wow you packed on some size!".. or "someones taking creatine!" and then you'll get the "what juice are you on??"...

People that are around you constantly won't say anything..

[BJJ]

Yes I understood, you had just remembered me something and I started to write...
apologize!

[BJJ]

Dude you're way over thinking this..

People you see everyday are not going to notice the drastic change as much as someone you only see once every other month.

People I see everyday notice I've been gaining weight, but don't say much after that.

People I haven't seen in 2-3 months, and I run into them at a bar, or a social event have an extremely different reaction. They usually say "wow you packed on some size!".. or "someones taking creatine!" and then you'll get the "what juice are you on??"...

People that are around you constantly won't say anything..

You are also right, thank you.

[Dog-Slime]

Dude you're way over thinking this..

People you see everyday are not going to notice the drastic change as much as someone you only see once every other month.

People I see everyday notice I've been gaining weight, but don't say much after that.

People I haven't seen in 2-3 months, and I run into them at a bar, or a social event have an extremely different reaction. They usually say "wow you packed on some size!".. or "someones taking creatine!" and then you'll get the "what juice are you on??"...

People that are around you constantly won't say anything..

Very true my first cycle I gained like 30lbs in 8 weeks (frontloaded). It was crazy I still got a nice lil stretchmark in my armpit to remind me of it. Point is tho that people commented that I was looking good/putting on weight etc but to my surprise none of my friends or family asked if I was juicing. Then I go out to play cards and bump into a friend who knew me really well but had been out of town for a couple months. He could not shut up about it. EVERYTIME he looked at me that night he would be like my god man how did you even do that, I know you took some steroids but wtf did you take? Or look at the roid monster over here... Kept saying stuff like that ALL night. It was pretty embarassing because there were several people around that I didn't want to know and who had not made any juice inquires to me but it still made me feel damn good to see his reaction as he was in complete awe.