Is there a test shortage? I mean really...
Test is needed for normal labido and immune function...
I just don't understand why all these no test cycles!
Is there a test shortage? I mean really...
Test is needed for normal labido and immune function...
I just don't understand why all these no test cycles!
1) Various compounds suppress your HPTA to varying degrees. You will never have zero test in your system.
2) You recover faster from compounds that are mild on your HPTA. Most don't need to run HCG during or after an oxandrolone or EQ cycle, and you can recover just using nolva and/or clomid.
3) People may not want the gains testosterone has to offer. Some people would rather have leaner more quality gains. Blowing up 20-25lbs being in a professional job is like wearing a big pink sign that says "Look at me...I'm juicing!". 30-50 year old men aren't supposed to grow like that in 12 weeks.
4) People may not want the pontential sides testosterone has to offer. It is a fairly potent androgen that accelerates hairline issues, body hair, acne, etc... It aromatizes so you are more prone to gyno and all of the associated side affects of estrogen such as bloat, and further suppression of your HPTA.
5) You may need ancillaries such as HCG and an AI, which make the cycle more complicated. HCG adds further estrogen so read #4 again.
6) Testosterone and tren are potent androgenic compounds. Adrogens are associated with CHD (cornary heart disease).
7) You may or may not have sexual dysfunction using EQ alone. Adding test is not always affective for some people in improving sex drive. My dick went in the dirt on tren and no amount of test could help it.
Again, I have done many EQ based cycles without test and my immune system is fine. I haven't had the flu in years, and never while on cycle. Moot point however, because there is never zero test in our system, and other compounds could do fine in support of our immmune system.
Hope that helps...
Last edited by spooledup; 08-24-2009 at 10:52 PM.
Just because you get sick when you come off test doesn't mean everyone does. I never have. You have some other kind of issue going on. I've never heard of people consistently getting sick because of low test. See a doc.
If you can't understand why people don't want to run test based on what I wrote you're just being stubborn.
Edit: Btw, Var and EQ are very weak androgens. EQ is mostly anabolic.
Last edited by spooledup; 08-25-2009 at 08:42 AM.
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