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    1st cycle needs to be test only . It is easier for someone who is new to this to use a long ester. Some say to pin it every 3.5 days. I firmly believe every 7 days is fine.

    No less than 400 mg a week if your wanting to put on muscle. 500mg is a good 1st cycle and you will probably not run into unwanted sides.

    Your Andropen if its real andropen which I highly doubt is a great product.

    You have to have enough Clomid at the end of your cycle to run 150/100/50/50
    And Nolva at 40/40/40/40

    Also youshouls always have double the amout of Nolva incase gyno or extreme bloating start to occur during your cycle.

    EQ has nothing to do with your hpta. And its hard to even tell if your shut down until you get to your PCT.

    You have alot to learn along with others on this board. Take the time to learn from this . Save your gear for a future cycle which is better planned.

    You can run the cycle your on 4 times over the next few years and you will have leass gains than if you ran 1 of our beginners cycles correctly.

    Good luck

    CHAP
    Last edited by CHAP; 09-01-2009 at 09:27 AM.

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