URGENT _ What does Testosterone do to IGF-I

[nwk1]

Is IGF levels affected by testosterone cycle? My levels are 67

[MuscleScience]

IGF is most directly influenced by HGH.

[nwk1]

My blood levels are as follows
IGF-I 63ng
Testosterone 747 ng
% Free Testosterone 1.26
Testosterone Free 94.4 pg/ml
Sex Hormone 44

I have a low libido and have been off my cycle for 60 days, any idea why?

[MuscleScience]

did they check prolactin levels?
what was your cycle like?

[nwk1]

I don't think they checked prolactin levels, what does that affect?

My first cycle I did test and deca, I kept the dosages low at 1ml once a week for 8 weeks. I did a crappy post cycle so I got back on test for 6 weeks and came off with a decent pct, hcg,anastrozole and chlomid. I took the hcg throughout the cycle and for PCT.

[MuscleScience]

High Prolactin levels inhibit dopamine in the brain. This can effect sexual desire and performance.

[nwk1]

Does the testosterone cause high prolactin? What is the fix?

[MuscleScience]

I believe Deca causes that, hence deca dick. I could be wrong on that. I am not a steroid expert or guru by any stretch of the imagination....sorry.

[nwk1]

doc said it may take months to bring levels back. Does deca stay in system long?

[MuscleScience]

doc said it may take months to bring levels back. Does deca stay in system long?

its metabolites can stay for a very long time. I think it can be detected up to 18 months post cycle. Verses testosterone E which can be detected for like 3 months post cycle.

[nwk1]

I also heard HCG raises prolactin levels.

[MuscleScience]

thats possible, HCG is a very short lived peptide hormone so I dont know how long its effects would last.

[Hazard]

thats possible, HCG is a very short lived peptide hormone so I dont know how long its effects would last.

http://humrep.oxfordjournals.org/cgi...tract/6/8/1070

Just something I found.....

~Haz~

[MuscleScience]

http://humrep.oxfordjournals.org/cgi...tract/6/8/1070

Just something I found.....

~Haz~

Good find!!!

That should help clear things up.

[nwk1]

it shows prolactin levels rise after hcg use but doesnt say how long before goes back to normal. Maybe the deca and the hcg combined screwed things up.

[Hazard]

Good find!!!

That should help clear things up.

Yeah.... i mean.... it's not 100% specific for "us" but i guess it's as close as we're going to find..... I'm still looking for some more studies on it.

~Haz~

[Hazard]

it shows prolactin levels rise after hcg use but doesnt say how long before goes back to normal.

I would assume.... in our "situation" the levels would fall after HCG is gone. Not 100% sure tho..... If I find anything i'll post it.....

~Haz~

[Swifto]

Is IGF levels affected by testosterone cycle? My levels are 67

There is a lot of contradicting data on this subject.

Some believe estrogen is responsible for the increase in IGF, but then, when one runs something that doesnt aromotase, such as Var, GH is raised.

When you block estrogen PRODUCTION from testosterone with an aromatase inhibitor in men, IGF-1 has been shown to go down, with no apparent effect on GH. On the the other hand, when you block the ACTION of estrogen with tamoxifen, GH generally does go down, as well as IGF-1. - Nandi (RIP)

See how its conflicting...

[Swifto]

Good find!!!

That should help clear things up.

Are you being sarcastic MS?

The study is on women...

[Hazard]

Are you being sarcastic MS?

The study is on women...

LMAO i knew that..... thats why i said it's not suited for us specifically....

~Haz~

[Swifto]

HCG can increase estrogen directly at the testes and via aromotasation.

It can also increase progesterone levels.

[Swifto]

I cant find anything on HCG raising PRL...

I'll keep looking, but I dont also see how it can either yet.

[TBones]

It's clear after 5 pages and umpteen million recomandations that it's better to run durring then shock your nuts back in gear after cycle....The few times somone asked about dosage at the end of cycle, it's gets redirected to "better to use durrnig". LOL

Anyway, i will consider that for next time after reading this thread. Good stuff. However, It's too late for this cycle. I'm 3 weeks away from the end. I've seen it two ways on this thread, 500iu ED and 500 to 1000iu EOD. So whats the consesus?


TBone

[TBones]

It's clear after 5 pages and umpteen million recomandations that it's better to run durring then shock your nuts back in gear after cycle....The few times somone asked about dosage at the end of cycle, it's gets redirected to "better to use durrnig". LOL

Anyway, i will consider that for next time after reading this thread. Good stuff. However, It's too late for this cycle. I'm 3 weeks away from the end. I've seen it two ways on this thread, 500iu ED and 500 to 1000iu EOD. So whats the consesus?


TBone

OOPS, wrong thread. I've been clicking on so many links from the first thread i was reading that i didnt realize i was posting on this one. Sorry... nevermind