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[ranging1]

YET ANOTHER AWESOME WORKOUT

trained BIceps, calves

workout
4 sets dumebll curls
2 sets straight barbell curl
3 sets standing calve raises

Strength gains
bicep curl 27.5kg, 8 reps
standing calve raises, 250kg, 12 reps (machine didnt go heavier )

[xnotoriousx]

Hit us with a progress pic same back double pose or something it's almost been a month since the last one.

[ranging1]

Hit us with a progress pic same back double pose or something it's almost been a month since the last one.

no problem ill prob take them either 2morow night, or night after since ill be getting jabbed then by my mate, so he can take the fotos again


anyways, 2dai i trained chest

be abit of a head **** lately, becuase ive had to train at other gyms for my back and chest days since my gyms dumbell end at 50kg, and i neeed 60s

doesnt help ive lost my license so ive been busing it to the gym most days, unless a mate or misses gives me a lift

bodyweight unknown (ill find out 2morow when i go back to my gym for leg day)

workout was
4 sets dumbell press
2 sets incline press
2 sets machine chest press

strength gains
dumbell chest press, 62kg, 6 reps

after that i did incline press but on the second set i done my shoulder while trying to get the dumbells in position, and the guy spoting me (some random didnt know what a spot was!!!!!!!1, the dum **** just nodded at me me i asked him to spot me from behind)

so anyways since i done my shoulder, i moves to machine chest exercises to take pressure off it

hoping it recovers fast, so i can train hard next week

[ranging1]

ok 2dai i was stonger again, trained legs and quads

was stonger 2dai but im just going to chuck the gains in my summary

im now 13 weeks in so heres a summary of my weeks strength gains

week 12
bodyweight 102.7kg SAME

decline bench press: 125kg, 10 reps
good mornings: 110kg, 10 reps
machine lateral raises 100kg, 12 reps
machine squat =185kg, 6 reps
sqaut: 152kg 10 reps, stopped squat since legs are before my deadlift day
45 degree leg press: 680kg, 8 reps
barbell shoulder press infront: 80kg 10reps
lat rows(fixed pull down): 145kg, 11 reps
barbell shrugs: 160kg, 15 reps
deadlift: 195kg, 12 reps
leg extensions: 105, 10 reps
dumbell rows each arm: 60kg, 12 reps
calve raise using 45 degree leg press: 465kg, 9 reps
leg curls 96kg 20 reps, gym doesnt go heavier
dips, 10reps 36kg added
close grip bench press: 105kg, 8 reps
seated leg curl: 117, 15 reps
stiff leg deadlift 185kg, 10 reps
reverse grip curl 40kg, 11 reps
barbell curl: 50 kg, 12 reps
dumbell lateral row 38kg, 10 reps
dumbell press: 60kg, 8 reps
dumbell shoulder press: 42kg, 10 reps
machine lateral row 107kg, 10 reps
skull crushers 60kg, 12 reps

week 13
bodyweight 102kg, down .7kg

decline bench press: 125kg, 10 reps
good mornings: 130kg, 10 reps
machine lateral raises 110kg, 12 rep
machine squat =185kg, 6 reps
sqaut: 152kg 10 reps, stopped squat since legs are before my deadlift day
45 degree leg press: 740kg, 8 reps
barbell shoulder press infront: 80kg 10reps
lat rows(fixed pull down): 147kg, 11 reps
barbell shrugs: 165kg, 13 reps
deadlift: 195kg, 12 reps
leg extensions: 124, 10 reps
dumbell rows each arm: 62.5kg, 10 reps
calve raise using 45 degree leg press: 465kg, 15 reps
leg curls 96kg 20 reps, gym doesnt go heavier
dips, 10reps 36kg added
close grip bench press: 105kg, 8 reps
seated leg curl: 127, 13 reps
stiff leg deadlift 185kg, 10 reps
reverse grip curl 40kg, 11 reps
barbell curl: 55 kg, 10 reps
dumbell lateral row 38kg, 10 reps
dumbell press: 62kg, 6 reps
dumbell shoulder press: 44kg, 8 reps
machine lateral row 109kg, 10 reps
skull crushers 65kg, 10 reps

last night was my last jab , starting PCT in 2 weeks , dont really want to since im still gaining BUT i think i have to, just something i think i need to go through alwise recovery will be harder if i stay on gear longer

[ranging1]

ok last workout i trained, shoulders, triceps
2dai, inner back, glutes, rear delts, lower back

workouts

2 sets dumbell shoulder press
1 set behind the neck press
3 sets machine lateral raises
3 sets lying skull crushers
3 sets dumbell hammer grip skull crushers

2nd workout
3 sets dumbell rows
2 sets machine lateral rows
2 sets rear delt cable extensions
3 sets good mornings

strength gains
dumbell rows 65kg, 9 reps
dumbell shoulder press 46kg, 8 reps
good mornings 132kg, 10 reps
machine lateral raises 115kg, 12 reps

[ranging1]

great day 2dai

trained biceps and calves

workout
4 sets dumbell curls
2 sets straight barbell curls
3 sets clave raise using 45 degree leg press

strength gains
bicep curl 27.5kg 10 reps nice slow
clave raises 470kg, 12 reps

chest 2morow, looking forward to it, gonna maul those dumbells

[ranging1]

ok NOT the best day 2dai

bodyweight 101.8kg so im down
trained chest

tried to do dumbell presses BUT my shoulder still hasnt recovered from its injury so i didnt get really far, was able to get 57.5kgs for 5 reps before my shoulder gave in completely

so i just stuck to machines, machine press i managed to get 3 n half plates on each side, but being a machine that really means nothing to me

shall c how my next few workouts go, if i find im loosing strength i think ill just train lightly and maintain until PCT begins

[t-gunz]

ok NOT the best day 2dai

bodyweight 101.8kg so im down
trained chest

tried to do dumbell presses BUT my shoulder still hasnt recovered from its injury so i didnt get really far, was able to get 57.5kgs for 5 reps before my shoulder gave in completely

so i just stuck to machines, machine press i managed to get 3 n half plates on each side, but being a machine that really means nothing to me

shall c how my next few workouts go, if i find im loosing strength i think ill just train lightly and maintain until PCT begins

what you do to your shoulder. might of been explained in a previous post but i didn't see it.

i injured my shoulder when i wrote off my harley. not bad just effects me in some exercises but not all the time...

[Yashp]

It seems you're running with quite a low volumen, sometimes only a total of 4-5 sets. What's the thought behind this?

[ranging1]

what you do to your shoulder. might of been explained in a previous post but i didn't see it.

i injured my shoulder when i wrote off my harley. not bad just effects me in some exercises but not all the time...

when i was doing dumbell incline presses, i went to put the weights up but when i forced then up i went to wide, and my shoulder gave way and the dumbell pulled my shoulder out

It seems you're running with quite a low volumen, sometimes only a total of 4-5 sets. What's the thought behind this?

it works for me, i use to to high volume 9 sets or so but i always found i would overtrain or i would gain more fat then muscle mass due to i strained the muscle far to much, id get stronger but my fat gains were excesive just becuase i required ALOT more food to recover from 9 sets workouts, and since i required more food i always put on more fat then i wanted

weneva i trained with high volume my bf% would go up to 15 or 16%, now with lower volume and more variety i maintain 12% while bulking, which is usually very hard for me, on gear ive maintained that bf% but obviously my muscle gains ahve been ALOT more rapid

ive found that over my training experience my:
chest responds well to 7-9 sets
direct lat training 3-4 sets
middle back 3-4 sets
traps 3-4 sets with 12-15 rep range
triceps 6 sets
biceps usually 4-6 sets
front delt 3 sets
middle delt 3 sets
rear delt 2 sets
quads 6 sets
hamstrings, lower back and glutes 4 sets high rep range
calves 3-4 sets high rep range
forearms 4 sets

^^^ that is of course direst training, obviuosly i dont account for indirect training, e.g triceps stimulated on chest day

now that im on gear i always train with the highest amount of those alocated sets, but no more

any more volume and i tend not to recover aswell, its seems to be working anyways, ive increased my strength dramatically and i gained 18kg, now 16kg up but ive noticed im alot leaner atm, easily 12% or less and my strength has continued to increase

as for my theory, its not really theory but scientific, if gear allows u to train harder and recover faster then doing 6 sets ON GEAR would stimulate more growth then 6 sets without gear, since ur can obviously train harder and lift more weight on gear ur almost guarenteeed to recover from the workout and come back stronger

my idea is basically if gear can stimulate more growth without the need for more sets, then i dont c why increase my training volume when i can gain very well with less sets, and prevent myself from overtraining, i mean ive seen people in this forum overtrain on gear which i just think is ridiculous since uve got 6 times the normal levels of hormones in ur body then natural people

my goal every week is simply to increase strength, im a big beleiver that with strength comes size, and its definetaly that case for me

ANYWAYS, 2dai was great workout!!!!!
trained lats, traps, forearms

bodyweight 101.6kg, down again? but dont mind at all

workout was
2 sets fixed pull down
2 super sets of pull ups with wide grip then chin up grip
2 sets barbell shrugs front
2 sets barbell shrugs behind the back
4 sets barbell wrist curls

strength gains
fixed pull down is up to 150kg, 10 reps
barbell shrugs are 167kg, 13 reps

glad today i was stonger, yesterday i was a little down becuase i couldnt train by chest hard, 2morows legs, CANT WAIT, to thrash my gyms 45 degree leg press

[xnotoriousx]

progress pics???

[gigabitbucket]

Sounds like you are on a nice high, keep it up. your first set of pics looked impressive!

[ranging1]

progress pics???

sorry mate, promised by 2dai, but since ive broken up with my gf, sorta havent gotten round to it, since the last fotos i took were with her camera, so illl c what i can do

Sounds like you are on a nice high, keep it up. your first set of pics looked impressive!

thanks mate, yea first pics were pretty aight, prob biggest increase since those has been my back, chest, shoulders and legs, triceps and biceps are only increased slighty

anyways 2dai i trained quads, and hamstrings

bodyweight 102.4kg, so im back up again, definetaly abit of water weight fluctuation recently

was feeling pretty wrecked since i trained early this morning and hadnt really given my food time to digest, i also HATE training legs in the mornings, i just dont think the human body was meant to push 760kg at 8am, IMO

workout
3 sets 45 degree leg press
3 sets leg extensions
2 sets seated leg curls

Strength gains

45 degree leg press 760kg, 6 reps, however the last 2 reps were abit dodgy sinc ei was feeling pretty sluggish, didnt really come low enough for the last 2

leg extensions 131, 10 reps

seated leg curl, 131, 13 reps

pretty happy with those results

atm im pretty much either 1 off, or adding weight to the stacks on machines in my gym atm (pretty proud of that), as free weights, 2-3 times a week ive been going to another gym coz my gym ends at 120 pound dumbells, so been going other gyms since been needing the 140s

2morow shoulder day, really wanna get my dumbell shoulder press to 48kg
machine lateral raises really want 120kg, shall c how i go

[ranging1]

ok 2dai was a good and bad day

last night unfortunatly my mate pursuaded me to pop a pill while we were out, unfortunatly since i havent touched anything this whole cycle and had avoided going out most nights and PCT is starting soon i thought i might aswell not be antisocial and have some fun with my mates for one night,

anyways since thismorning i woke up with a crushed appetite and only slept 2 hour si was feeling pretty wrecked

had my usual 6 cups of cocopops, 2 litres skim milk and litre of juice, FUK that was alot of calories and with my crushed appetite i felt like i was going to chuck

anyways got to the gym hour later, started drinking my pre workout shake as usual and bang, ran to the toilet and chcuked up hard my entire breakfast and my no xplode.............

so after i threw up i still decided to train with my younger brother

workout was
2 sets dumbell press
1 set behind the neck press
3 sets machine lateral raises
3 sets skull crushers
3 sets hammer grip dumbell skull crushers

strength gains
dumbell press was same, but thats okay since i threw up my pre workout shake, so i was expecting to be weaker, being the same strength however shows i have gotten stronger if i had of had my shake
behind the neck press was 5kg up
machine lateral raises 120kg, 10 reps
hammer grip skull crushers dumbells 24kg each

[ranging1]

summary of last weeks stats, compared to this weeks

week 13
bodyweight 102kg, down .7kg

decline bench press: 125kg, 10 reps
good mornings: 130kg, 10 reps
machine lateral raises 110kg, 12 rep
machine squat =185kg, 6 reps
sqaut: 152kg 10 reps, stopped squat since legs are before my deadlift day
45 degree leg press: 740kg, 8 reps
barbell shoulder press infront: 80kg 10reps
lat rows(fixed pull down): 147kg, 11 reps
barbell shrugs: 165kg, 13 reps
deadlift: 195kg, 12 reps
leg extensions: 124, 10 reps
dumbell rows each arm: 62.5kg, 10 reps
calve raise using 45 degree leg press: 465kg, 15 reps
leg curls 96kg 20 reps, gym doesnt go heavier
dips, 10reps 36kg added
close grip bench press: 105kg, 8 reps
seated leg curl: 127, 13 reps
stiff leg deadlift 185kg, 10 reps
reverse grip curl 40kg, 11 reps
barbell curl: 55 kg, 10 reps
dumbell lateral row 38kg, 10 reps
dumbell press: 62kg, 6 reps
dumbell shoulder press: 44kg, 8 reps
machine lateral row 109kg, 10 reps
skull crushers 65kg, 10 reps


week 14 (current)
bodyweight 101.2kg, down .8kg

decline bench press: 125kg, 10 reps
good mornings: 132kg, 10 reps
machine lateral raises 120kg, 12 rep
machine squat =185kg, 6 reps
sqaut: 152kg 10 reps, stopped squat since legs are before my deadlift day
45 degree leg press: 760kg, 6 reps
barbell shoulder press infront: 80kg 10reps
lat rows(fixed pull down): 150kg, 11 reps
barbell shrugs: 167kg, 13 reps
deadlift: 195kg, 12 reps
leg extensions: 131, 10 reps
dumbell rows each arm: 65kg, 10 reps
calve raise using 45 degree leg press: 470kg, 15 reps
leg curls 96kg 20 reps, gym doesnt go heavier
dips, 10reps 36kg added
close grip bench press: 105kg, 8 reps
seated leg curl: 131, 13 reps
stiff leg deadlift 185kg, 10 reps
reverse grip curl 40kg, 11 reps
barbell curl: 55kg, 10 reps
dumbell lateral row 38kg, 10 reps
dumbell press: 62kg, 6 reps
dumbell shoulder press: 46kg, 8 reps
machine lateral row 109kg, 10 reps
skull crushers 65kg, 10 reps

so this week ive lost 2 pounds, but strength is up again, presuming im dropping fat and gaining muscle? or im probably droppping some water weight

neways happy with this weeks results

i start PCT in 1 week not looking forward to it

funny coz i start PCT on my birthday!!!!!! yay lol

[ranging1]

okay 2dai was another GREAT workout

trained inner back, glutes, lower back, rear delts

workout
3 sets dumbell rows
2 sets machine lateral rows
2 sets cabe rear delt pulls
3 sets good mornings
2 sets machine lower back extensions

strength gains
dumbell rows 67.5kg, 9 reps really happy with that
machine lateral rows 110kg, 10 reps
good mornings 135kg, 10 reps

delt extensions were 32kg and machine back extensions were 86kg, but since their machines the weight is always missleading

[ranging1]

another GREAT workout

bodyweight 101.8kg

trained calves, biceps

workout
4 sets dumbell curls
2 sets barbell curls
3 sets calve raises using 45 degree leg press

strength gains
dumbell curl 30kg, 9 reps, FINALLY , my biceps are actually growing
calve raises same

[tembe]

good work mate

keep it up...

im about same as u in my cycle atm..

lets see how ur pct goes

[ranging1]

good work mate

keep it up...

im about same as u in my cycle atm..

lets see how ur pct goes

thanks mate, yea not looking forward to PCT, but will be glad when i drop most the water im carrying

anyways last 2 days ive trained both chest, lats, traps

bodyweight 101.9kg

no strength gains inn chest, all lifts were same except decline press which was up by 5kg

lats were same, traps were same, bummmed out coz i got no strength gains

tomorow is legs, i know ill be stronger in extensions and seated curls hopefully

as for effects of steroids, feel high glycogen levels still, however im loosing my training focus and intensity, (aggresivness), i can feel that im not as focused or aggresive when i weight lift atm

owell, 2morow legs, legs always goes good, if it doesnt think i might cry lol

also i feel asif im getting fatter, maybe its psycological, havent gained weight, and im up in strength still.......... dunno

[tembe]

do u measure ur body parts?

to see the gains u have made...or to see the losses in pct?

[ranging1]

do u measure ur body parts?

to see the gains u have made...or to see the losses in pct?

no i havent measured my bodyparts, and prob wont, just becuase my goal during PCT is to maintain my strength as much as possible, since strength is a good indicator of how much muscle im carrying

my goal is both strength and size, not just size, since i dont really wanna look big and be weak

also im carrying ALOT of water since i havent used ANY nolvadex or arimidex during my cycle to combat water retention, so im surely going to loose some size when the water weight drops off

i can confidently say im carrying easy almost 4kg in water weight, without a doubt

anyways today i trained legs and it was GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!

bodyweight 101.1 kg, down again but dont mind

workout
4 sets machine squat
2 sets leg extensions
2 sets seated leg curls

Strength gains
machine squat 215kg, 10 reps (whole stack)
leg extensions 137kg, 9 reps (whole stack)
seated leg curl 137kg 13 reps (whole stack)

really happy with those lifts since ive maxed out the machines at my gym, was alot of fun to coz i had half the gym staring at me while i did it

ive noticed alot of my aggression in the gym isnt their anymore, so if definetaly noticing the drop in blood levels of the steroids

still training ****ing hard though

PCT starts in 3 days , its funny coz i start PCT exactly on my birthday, shall c how it goes, i havent started PCT yet but i feel that my recovery abilities have weakened a little sinc eim getting more muscle soreness now

trying to maitain my calories high, but struggling since i vomited the other day before gym in the toilets since i was so full and sick of food, didnt matter though, still went and trained lol

[tembe]

no i havent measured my bodyparts, and prob wont, just becuase my goal during PCT is to maintain my strength as much as possible, since strength is a good indicator of how much muscle im carrying

my goal is both strength and size, not just size, since i dont really wanna look big and be weak

also im carrying ALOT of water since i havent used ANY nolvadex or arimidex during my cycle to combat water retention, so im surely going to loose some size when the water weight drops off

i can confidently say im carrying easy almost 4kg in water weight, without a doubt

anyways today i trained legs and it was GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!

bodyweight 101.1 kg, down again but dont mind

workout
4 sets machine squat
2 sets leg extensions
2 sets seated leg curls

Strength gains
machine squat 215kg, 10 reps (whole stack)
leg extensions 137kg, 9 reps (whole stack)
seated leg curl 137kg 13 reps (whole stack)

really happy with those lifts since ive maxed out the machines at my gym, was alot of fun to coz i had half the gym staring at me while i did it

ive noticed alot of my aggression in the gym isnt their anymore, so if definetaly noticing the drop in blood levels of the steroids

still training ****ing hard though

PCT starts in 3 days , its funny coz i start PCT exactly on my birthday, shall c how it goes, i havent started PCT yet but i feel that my recovery abilities have weakened a little sinc eim getting more muscle soreness now

trying to maitain my calories high, but struggling since i vomited the other day before gym in the toilets since i was so full and sick of food, didnt matter though, still went and trained lol

nice work mate

yes im carrying heaps of water as well

just dont want to walk into the gym and be heaps weaker.. lol

yeh try keep ur calories high..and train like a monster

[ranging1]

nice work mate

yes im carrying heaps of water as well

just dont want to walk into the gym and be heaps weaker.. lol

yeh try keep ur calories high..and train like a monster

thanks mate, will do

anyways today was my LAST workout before PCT which starts tomorow

BUT it was an awesome workout

my legs are killing me from yesterdays workout, so my recovery abilities are DEFINETALY lowering

bodyweight 100.8kg

trained shoulders, triceps

workout
2 sets dumbell shoulder press
1 set behind the neck press
3 sets machine lateral raises
alternating sets of:
3 sets skull crushers straight bar
3 sets hammer grip dumbell skull crushers

strength gains
dumbell shoulder press 48kg, 5 reps
machine lateral raises 122kg, 10 reps
hammer grip dumbell skull crushers 26kg, 10 reps
straight bar skull crushers, 70kg 8 reps
behind neck press is up to 90kg 10 reps

PCT TOMOROW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

BUT im still going to have ONE LAST hard workout for my middle back, and then thats it, begin the maintaince phase

looking forward to dropping the water weight though

[ranging1]

okay today was fgirst say of PCT

taken my nolvadex, 20mg, other 20mg will be tonight

today was my last mass workout, all workouts intensity after this will be lowered

trained middle back, lowerback, glutes

workout
3 sets dumbell rows
2 sets machine lateral rows
1 set good mornings
2 sets machine lower back extensions

strength gains
dumbell row 67.5kg 8 reps
good morning same becuase i just took it easy on them
lower back extesnions 90kg (whole machine stack)

though i was still stronger today im definetaly noticing a loss of aggression and focus in the gym, dick still works so my test levels are still relativaly above normal range

[Yashp]

How much will you lower your intensity? I thought it would be a good idea running with full throttle when starting the PCT? As this was a phase of the cycle where one would be the most vulnerable towards anything. Are you keeping the same volume?

Might be that I missed something, but you didn't take any AI or SERM doing your cycle, right? And are you only planning on running Nolva as PCT? Not that I have anything to add about the usage of only this, but I'm curious to find out - I am about to run the same cycle

[xnotoriousx]

Lets see those pre and post cycle pics then. I've been reading results in this thread for awhile, how about we see some?

[ranging1]

How much will you lower your intensity? I thought it would be a good idea running with full throttle when starting the PCT? As this was a phase of the cycle where one would be the most vulnerable towards anything. Are you keeping the same volume?

Might be that I missed something, but you didn't take any AI or SERM doing your cycle, right? And are you only planning on running Nolva as PCT? Not that I have anything to add about the usage of only this, but I'm curious to find out - I am about to run the same cycle

no u shouldnt raise ur intensity during PCT, like u said my body will be vulnerable and have low levels of testerone, so this is a really bad time to train hard when my recovery abilities are very unlikely or poor

i will be doing 2-3 sets per bodypart, training to positive failure (its a maintaince workut) the idea of this isnt to stimulate growth, just to maintain size

i didnt run nolvadex becuase it suppresses ur gains, i kept nolvadex on hand just incase i started getting gyno
i didnt use any AI or SERM becuase they all suppress gains in some way, so i didnt use them, i just put up with the bloat and water retention

Lets see those pre and post cycle pics then. I've been reading results in this thread for awhile, how about we see some?

i dont think i have before pics BUT i will get in some after pics, ill take them in 3 or 4 days becuase i wanna take them when i drop some more water so i can actually c my lean gains

today was a rest day

first rest day in about 14 weeks lol

[Yashp]

Ahh ok, thanks for clarifying. It makes sense
Weren't you a little worried about getting gynos? Anyway, I'm doing the same, though I might just buy some AI in case of anything - better safe than sorry.

And put up those pictures, man, I can't wait to see you.

[tembe]

nice work mate

very strong

[Batman360]

What do you mean by lower intensity? Do you mean less sets and exercises or do you mean you won't lift as hard? If I were you I would work on keeping strength up as much as possible. If you take it easy during and after PCT your gains will melt off quickly. I speak fom experience after my first cycle. I would work twice as hard than when on cycle. Good luck on PCT.

[Yashp]

Intensity = % of RM. So the best solution would be to work with high intensity, but perhaps lower the volume (sets) a bit, to let the body cope with the lowered hormonelevel? Ofcourse keeping in mind that the volume needs to be high enough to prevent atrophy.

[ranging1]

Ahh ok, thanks for clarifying. It makes sense
Weren't you a little worried about getting gynos? Anyway, I'm doing the same, though I might just buy some AI in case of anything - better safe than sorry.

And put up those pictures, man, I can't wait to see you.

yea i was worried a little about getting gyno, however i just kept weary and if i felt my nipples were sensitive or sore, then id take something to prevent it, however i didnt seem to get any signs of gyno

dw pics will come soon, im waiting another 2-3 days for more of the water to drop off

nice work mate

very strong

thanks mate, im sure my strength will die a little once im off the juice but shall c

What do you mean by lower intensity? Do you mean less sets and exercises or do you mean you won't lift as hard? If I were you I would work on keeping strength up as much as possible. If you take it easy during and after PCT your gains will melt off quickly. I speak fom experience after my first cycle. I would work twice as hard than when on cycle. Good luck on PCT.

yea i just mean less sets, i still will train to positive failure but nothing beyond that, just enough to maitain muscle mass and stimulate the muscle slightly

Intensity = % of RM. So the best solution would be to work with high intensity, but perhaps lower the volume (sets) a bit, to let the body cope with the lowered hormonelevel? Ofcourse keeping in mind that the volume needs to be high enough to prevent atrophy.

yea pretty much what ill be following


anyways 2dai i trained biceps and calves

bodyweight 98.3kg, so 2kg drop, presuming mostly water since my face isnt as puffy anymore

i havent slept in about 2 days since my birthday was yesterday and went to a dance party, so got no sleep, and forced down protein shakes before and after the party

so 2dai i was feeling pretty dam wrecked

anyways 2dai i obviously lost strength

workout
4 sets dumbell curls
2 sets calve raises using 45 degree leg press

calves raises on 45 degree leg press were down to 460kg for 12 reps
bicep curls were down to 27.5 kg 8 reps

so ruffly 10percent strength loss, not going to complain though since i could barely walk when i walked into the gym, so i wasnt expecting to be strong

tomrow i train chest so shall c how that goes
plan on doinf 4-5 sets for chest

[ranging1]

okay today i weigh 97.6kg

strength losses

trained chest, abs

workout
2 sets dumbell press
1 set incline press
2 sets decline press
40 crunches
30 lying leg raises
20 double crunches
30 machine abs crunches, 87kg (wholestack)

strength losses
dumbell press 57.5kg 8 reps
incline dumbell press same
decline press 115kg, 10 reps

not to fussed by strength losses since i have expected to loose 10-20% in my strength

also used no preworkout today so im always 2-3kg weaker without it

diet today was as follows
breakfast: 4 slices wholegrain toast with vegemite, 2 tins of tuna, 1 glass juice (90 carbs, 45 protein, 8 fat)
lunch: 2 wholegrain sandwiches with 2 chicken breasts (60 carbs, 45 protein, 6 fat)
snack 1: wholegrain sandwich with tomato flavoured tuna (40 carbs, 45 protein, 7 fat)
snack 2: same as snack 1 (40 carbs, 45 protein, 7 fat)
pre workout: nothing
post workout: protein shake (40 carbs, 40 protein, 2 fat)
dinner: 2 wholegrain roles, with 2 steaks (70 carbs, 50 protein, 10 fat)
before bed: 1 scoop casein protein, glass skim milk ( 15 carbs, 30 protein, 1 fat)

totals, carbs 385, protein 300, fat 42 grams

might need to up my fat a little i think

side effects: im noticing alot more acne lately, mainly on my face and back
ive lost ALOT of water weight
my dick still working but sex drive is dying, still a little their though

any suggestions from anyone about what im doing?

[Aizen Sosuke]

Acne usually gets worse in PCT. I would get some accutane in a rush as well as some benzoil peroxide medicine. Keep yourself oil free and clean. As far as sex drive I think you are nuts with a nolva only PCT. Get HCG and you'll recover in no time along with nolvadex.

[tembe]

Acne usually gets worse in PCT. I would get some accutane in a rush as well as some benzoil peroxide medicine. Keep yourself oil free and clean. As far as sex drive I think you are nuts with a nolva only PCT. Get HCG and you'll recover in no time along with nolvadex.

i agree with aizen that you should definitly of employed another form of pct, in either hcg or clomid.

But try keep eating. Try stick to the amount of calories u need. Drink lots of water. And jsut fight to keep the weight lol

good luck mate

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Acne usually gets worse in PCT. I would get some accutane in a rush as well as some benzoil peroxide medicine. Keep yourself oil free and clean. As far as sex drive I think you are nuts with a nolva only PCT. Get HCG and you'll recover in no time along with nolvadex.

yea the acne i think i can tolerate maybe.... for now, shalll c if it gets worse

as for PCT i only ran test so i shouldnt be to suppressed, but ur right i should be using HCG, i just didnt get round to getting it in time,
my next cycle i plan on using HCG for the whole thing
as for clomid, dunno dont really c the need for it since it does the same thing nolvadex does, and as for sex drive it doesnt really do much, ive seen it suppress sex drive in this forum more then it promotes it

i agree with aizen that you should definitly of employed another form of pct, in either hcg or clomid.

But try keep eating. Try stick to the amount of calories u need. Drink lots of water. And jsut fight to keep the weight lol

good luck mate

thanks mate, yea i know buit to late for that, next cycle DEFINETALY will be using HCG, clomid still iffy on since know few people who have used it PCT and they didnt find it made much of a difference, some even thought it was to much

but shall c how i go.............

anyways today i trained lats, traps

i trained chest yesterday, and feel small amount of muscle soreness, nothing drastic, so its just the amount i hoped for so i dont overtrain

bodyweight today was 96.8kg, big drop in weight

workout
2 sets fixed pull down
1 set pull ups
3 sets barbell shrugs

strength gains? wow lol
fixed pull down 155kg, 8 reps
pull ups i managed to get 25 , which is probably due to the fact ive droped almost 5kg in bodyweight, so made it alot easier for me
barbell shrugs were same

happy with todays results, strength is still holding on

[tembe]

mayb due to ur starting of PCT and the reduction of estrogen, its causing a rapid water weight loss from the body.

Do you feel you have lost any muscle?

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naaaaaaa i dont feel asif ive lost muscle, i can see alot of the water weight has dropped

and i defietaly feel ALOT leaner, not puffy anymore, no water belly, nice smooth tummy with abdominal defition back

since i didnt use any AI or SERMs during my PCT, i was holding alot of water

the only place i feel i may have lost some size is in my arms, but thats coz i was holding alot of water around them so they looked bigger, but my arms and body look GREAT atm now that alot of water weight has dropped off

shall c how the next few days play out for me

[ranging1]

okay today was a LONNNNGGGGG day

been up since 5am, coz had to get to university early

ive lost my license so got a ride with a mate, since he works near there

anyways long day, didnt get to the gym till 8,

i also have this MASSIVE headache, and felt wrecked

anyways today i trained quads

bodyweight 96kg

3 sets machine squat
2 sets leg extensions

strengths
machine squat, 215kg 6 reps, down 4 reps
leg extensions same

happy with todays results, bodyweight is down fair bit, but strength is still their
side effects

im getting acne worse on the face, mainly chin

sex drive isnt the best anymore, but my dick still works lol, so cant complain

im getting random tingles in my ball sack, the same tingles i had when the first began to shrink

ive definetaly lost that aggression in the gym, so i can clearly feel the loss of steroids

loosing alot more water, people keep telling my how my face is looking really lean now

[tembe]

yeh i hav the same effect...
im still pretty bloated...started pct today

hopefully my face will get leaner as its pretty puffy atm haha