obama bashing

[peteroy01]

i agree, same shit.

i just dont see why people cant just fight together as a country to make things better...

or would that be socialism?

is helping others socialism?

voluntarily helping others is kind hearted
being forced to help others is socialism

MOST people that are getting help(people getting checks in the mail) just want free money and not doing anything for it. again, i did not say all but im calling it like i see it(just gotta walk 2 blocks down). and i think thats why most people that dont like Obama, cause people think hes gonna give their hard earned money to somebody that is a leech on society.

[RuhlFreak55]

voluntarily helping others is kind hearted
[B]being forced to help others is socialism[/B]

MOST people that are getting help(people getting checks in the mail) just want free money and not doing anything for it. again, i did not say all but im calling it like i see it(just gotta walk 2 blocks down). and i think thats why most people that dont like Obama, cause people think hes gonna give their hard earned money to somebody that is a leech on society.

BINGO....and that's WRONG......no one has the right to decide what to do with my money but me. I am the ONLY one that can decide that. If i don't want to help people, guess what, THAT'S MY RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and forcing us to help the pathetic excuses for humanity that need to die out with every increasing amounts of money will lead to only one thing....resentment, and eventually....WAR.

[TITANIUM]

BINGO....and that's WRONG......no one has the right to decide what to do with my money but me. I am the ONLY one that can decide that. If i don't want to help people, guess what, THAT'S MY RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and forcing us to help the pathetic excuses for humanity that need to die out with every increasing amounts of money will lead to only one thing....resentment, and eventually....WAR.

X2 my friend!

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[PistolPete33]

Everyone wants him to fail because if he pushes is agenda thru then we will all be screwed paying HIGHER taxes, having MORE laws and regulations, Paying for deadbeat welfare people, and illegal imigrants. We don't want to give up our freedoms and or money. If he fails then he won't be able to push his socialism and agenda on us and create problems that we won't be able to reverse. In the midterm elections next year if he is failing the Democrats will be voted out of office and then the republicans will have the house and the senate. Then there will be a balance. Right now these socialists can pass any bill they want without any opposition.

THIS IS WHY WE WANT HIM TO FAIL!!! In the few months that Obama has been in office he's increased the defecit MORE than all the presidents from Washington to Bush COMBINED!!!!!

I think he's already failing. He's a terrible leader and is still campaining. Stop going on talk shows and run the F-ing country.

[RuhlFreak55]

Everyone wants him to fail because if he pushes is agenda thru then we will all be screwed paying HIGHER taxes, having MORE laws and regulations, Paying for deadbeat welfare people, and illegal imigrants. We don't want to give up our freedoms and or money. If he fails then he won't be able to push his socialism and agenda on us and create problems that we won't be able to reverse. In the midterm elections next year if he is failing the Democrats will be voted out of office and then the republicans will have the house and the senate. Then there will be a balance. Right now these socialists can pass any bill they want without any opposition.

THIS IS WHY WE WANT HIM TO FAIL!!! In the few months that Obama has been in office he's increased the defecit MORE than all the presidents from Washington to Bush COMBINED!!!!!

I think he's already failing. He's a terrible leader and is still campaining. Stop going on talk shows and run the F-ing country.

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[Flagg]

Some very valid points being made but something I feel is missing is that somehow people think America only started failing when Obama took over and the fact is, the West has been on a decline for some time now.

In his defense, who COULD DO BETTER RIGHT NOW? You think about what America is dealing with: Debt, Economic Crisis, Borrowing and lending, Climate Crisis, Health Care Crisis, the Two Wars. If anyone thinks McCain and that dimwit running mate of his could be doing better then I think you're delusional. Could Ron Paul be doing better? Im not putting the entire blame onto Bush, but he sure left a nice juicey poison pill for the next Administration to inherit..

EDIT: Anyone who voted for Obama based on his colour was an idiot. Likewise, people who voted against him because of his colour were equally an idiot. Im sure there are many people that voted on him because they believed his policies were best for the country, but yeah, we're all humans, we all have equal rights now, unless you're an elitist neocon mother****er, so prehaps we should stop reminding each other what colour he is as seems to happen in every Obama thread, and discuss what COULD BE DONE to make things better.

[PistolPete33]

As far as the economy goes the private sector needs to fix it not the government. As far as the health care crisis??? What the hell are you talking about? We have the best health care in the world.... if the government steps in it will make it WORSE... Yes, some people don't have health care but they still get treated. Why can't we set up payment plans for people that get medical care and can't pay for it? Most of these people have nice cars, TV's, etc. They CAN afford it they just CHOOSE not to have it. In Obamas bill it is in there that it is ILLEGAL if you do not have healthcare and you can face JAIL TIME... Are you F-ing kidding me? Health care is a choice and a benefit not a given right.

What Climate Crisis are you talking about? Show me 1 scientific study that backs this up. Oh, there aren't any??? HMMMMM Sounds like another socialist agenda. They push this climite issue B.S. because it gives them MORE power. They want all cars to get better fuel economy which is going to cost us an extra $1500 per car. Doesn't make sense. If you want better fuel economy then buy a car that gets it. If you want to buy a muscle car that gets 10mpg then that is YOUR choice.

The only reason that people talk bad about Palin is because of the MEDIA... Joe Biden is a complete moron and is such a bad choice for V.P. yet the media bias doesn't show this.

[Flagg]

As far as the economy goes the private sector needs to fix it not the government. As far as the health care crisis??? What the hell are you talking about? We have the best health care in the world.... if the government steps in it will make it WORSE... Yes, some people don't have health care but they still get treated. Why can't we set up payment plans for people that get medical care and can't pay for it? Most of these people have nice cars, TV's, etc. They CAN afford it they just CHOOSE not to have it. In Obamas bill it is in there that it is ILLEGAL if you do not have healthcare and you can face JAIL TIME... Are you F-ing kidding me? Health care is a choice and a benefit not a given right.

What Climate Crisis are you talking about? Show me 1 scientific study that backs this up. Oh, there aren't any??? HMMMMM Sounds like another socialist agenda. They push this climite issue B.S. because it gives them MORE power. They want all cars to get better fuel economy which is going to cost us an extra $1500 per car. Doesn't make sense. If you want better fuel economy then buy a car that gets it. If you want to buy a muscle car that gets 10mpg then that is YOUR choice.

The only reason that people talk bad about Palin is because of the MEDIA... Joe Biden is a complete moron and is such a bad choice for V.P. yet the media bias doesn't show this.

Believe what you want, but the Government takes a HUGE INTEREST in anything you do and has done for a long time now. You could argue that it was the Private Sector that caused the economic crisis in the first place, the fact the Government is trying to rectify the problem could almost be seen as good. Im not saying it is, im for smaller government involvement but recklessness that caused the economic crisis CANNOT be allowed to occur again.
As for Healthcare, I don't know what to say about that. Im from the UK, we have universal healthcare here and it's never been a problem. You can still get private healthcare as well. The fact is some people in America are for it, just because you aren't doesn't mean you're right.
And im not going to elaborate too much on Climate. The planet IS getting hotter, that's mostly due to a natural cycle then Carbon Emissions, and im more concerned on how we are going to tackly the consequences of climate change. It's all bullshit you say? How come China, the biggest polluter, pledged to cut emissions at Copenhagen last month? Oh I guess everyone is wrong and America is right huh? Im sorry, we have just one planet, we cant afford to run the risk of seeing "what might happen".

Maybe Joe Biden is a moron, but the Dems were clever enough to keep him out the spotlight. There was nothing but scandal and idiocy surrounding Palin. The Media dictates a huge amount of how things are run, if the Republicans were dumb enough to unleash her to the Media then too bad for them.

A bit quiet on the two wars, or prehaps you think the US and the UK should be there as well?

[gixxerboy1]

As far as the economy goes the private sector needs to fix it not the government. As far as the health care crisis??? What the hell are you talking about? We have the best health care in the world.... if the government steps in it will make it WORSE... Yes, some people don't have health care but they still get treated. Why can't we set up payment plans for people that get medical care and can't pay for it? Most of these people have nice cars, TV's, etc. They CAN afford it they just CHOOSE not to have it. In Obamas bill it is in there that it is ILLEGAL if you do not have healthcare and you can face JAIL TIME... Are you F-ing kidding me? Health care is a choice and a benefit not a given right.What Climate Crisis are you talking about? Show me 1 scientific study that backs this up. Oh, there aren't any??? HMMMMM Sounds like another socialist agenda. They push this climite issue B.S. because it gives them MORE power. They want all cars to get better fuel economy which is going to cost us an extra $1500 per car. Doesn't make sense. If you want better fuel economy then buy a car that gets it. If you want to buy a muscle car that gets 10mpg then that is YOUR choice.

The only reason that people talk bad about Palin is because of the MEDIA... Joe Biden is a complete moron and is such a bad choice for V.P. yet the media bias doesn't show this.

Seriously what are you talking about. Illegals get treatment now. and Obama's public plan doesnt cover illegals.

also do you realise how many people want insurance can afford it but cant get it. I have diabetes, which alot of people do. Not 1 insurance company will let me purchase a health insurance policy at ANY cost. That isn't bullshit? Yes we may have the best healthcare in the world. But it is also the most expensive and most screwed up. Insurance companies run it now not Dr's