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    Quote Originally Posted by C_Bino View Post
    I was gonna write out a long response and tell you why you're wrong but I just dont care.

    Keep doing what you're doing...I'll keep staying at 5% bodyfat.

    Keep taking your ECA stack...you realize it makes you catabolic right? You also realize fats require more energy to digest than carbs? Most all food digested takes up about 10% energy for its immediate digestion. Cortisol is also highest after exercise and enzymes for nutrient assimilation are as well...but sure wait 30-45 minutes in a catabolic state to eat.

    Why on earth you would want to refill glycogen after a cardio session is beyond me.
    Why is it catabolic Bino?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    Why is it catabolic Bino?
    Not sure the exact mechanism but I know in studies that using ephedrine will have a catabolic effect on th ebody.

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    I wait 2 hours after a meal,then kardio for 60 min then I eat whatever is on the diet/meal plan. Could be chicken and rice etc. Thats how I roll. I usually have 2 bananas and 50gram whey after I train and then wait 1 hour before eating next meal,no good?
    Last edited by Critical Mass; 10-10-2009 at 06:21 PM. Reason: Had a question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C_Bino View Post
    Not sure the exact mechanism but I know in studies that using ephedrine will have a catabolic effect on th ebody.
    hasn't ephedrine been shown over and over again to be slightly anti-catabolic? going beyond the recommended 25-50mg may slightly change this, but otherwise, it does not have a catabolic effect....

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    Quote Originally Posted by chubbsub View Post
    hasn't ephedrine been shown over and over again to be slightly anti-catabolic? going beyond the recommended 25-50mg may slightly change this, but otherwise, it does not have a catabolic effect....
    Beta-agonists are not "catabolic" in human skeletal muscle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C_Bino View Post
    Not sure the exact mechanism but I know in studies that using ephedrine will have a catabolic effect on th ebody.
    I dont think this is actually true after doing my own research on it Bino. I read Pin state it increases ACTH and/or cortisol, but in my own research found nothing at all.

    Ephedrine will actually have a net positive effect on LBM through agonism of muscle adrenoreceptors. Ephedrine also has LBM sparing properties.

    No doubt there is evidence stating beta-agonists show anabolic/anti-catabolic effects in animals, there is ample evidence this is also demonstrated in humans.

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