Originally Posted by
marcus300
This is what these forums are all about, taking peoples experiences who have been there and done it, now its not a case of if I practised what i preach, its what ive seen and learnt over the yrs so I can pass it on, you have to remember I am not the only one who preaches to younger guys dont do it, its all over the internet by very well rrespected guys., many pro's infact shout this staement out all the time, Dorian in his interview at MD warned young BB's using AAS before things are ready.
To answer your question, i started training when I was around 19yrs old, remember I am 42yrs old now, I started taking gear when i was around 23-24 mark, back in them days there was more problems than starting young, i didnt do pct for yrs and in was deca and dbol cycles what were famous!
And the study Almond quotes from about the recovery of the HPTA with a good pct is done on people who have a fully developed HPTA and not on one that isnt fully functional.
Ive worked with many BBers over the yrs and ive seen first hand what starting to young can do to people, all you got to do is check out the forums and you will see it plain and simple. Ive got a few personal friends who started at a young age and are now on HRT in their 20's, ive seen friends and online friends become very depressed from having low test and the sides what it brings on,trust me the demons you have to cope with are scary!! its a big concern but its doesnt happen in all cases, i know a few guys who have never had a problem and who have fathered children without any difficulties after starting to young and being on and off for 10yrs+, but the majority it does effect in some way the forums show that and from older BB's personal experience.We say it for a reason!!
There are always exceptions to the rule, not everyone is the same so your going to hear from guys who have cycled when they were 18yrs and had no adverse effects, but the % is high what it does effect and the risk is there!! dont be blind.
Let me try and explain alittle better why Ive targetted Almond rather than all the other newbies on here trying to cycle at a young age, if it was just about his age I would tell him the risks and conerns and leave him to it, if he was daft enough to not to listen I would just leave the thread, but Almond is different in many ways, its not just one thing wrong with him like his age oh no, he as 3 things not going for him and in bodybuilding you need everything to be in balance to grow muscle, example
1st,,
His diet is rubbish, he doesnt eat like a bodybuilder, he as no idea what foods to eat to build tissue and he isnt going to do any good with a diet like that in maintaining anything, he will be living off the AAS. Diet is key in this game and his doesnt have anything like a good diet and you cant suddenly change it into a good one, it takes time to see what works and how you respond. check his threads out were he posted his diet.
2nd,
He as been training for 12 months, this is no base to work off, I can tell by his diet his training wont be good enough, he needs to build a foundation, strengthen his ligaments,tendons, connective tissue and joints before even considering taking AAS, these takes time and not 8 months worth of training with a sh1t diet and starting your first cycle. If this is done maintenance is far better building tissue becomes easy, its like your body being like a dried sponge if this is done correctly, 8-12 months worth of training is not the way forward in taking gear.
3rd,
His age, even he said today that he as a high test level for his age and would like it to be lower!! come on that is plain stupid and reckless behaviour! why shut it down if its high, USE WHAT YOU HAVE! why risk your hpta not ever getting to full function?
You see its not just his age,its a few things what is wrong with this guy! its many things what build muscle tissue, he as no idea what he is doing and he should stop and go down to the diet section and there are guys down there who will transform his body without AAS, he also needs to sort his training out and build a solid base. Check his threads out he already has a shrunken testicle and bloat problems, i am trying to help him.
People should learn from other peoples mistakes, not do the same ones!
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