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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    Yes start your pct day after your cycle ends, I would just do a nolva pct because var is mild and i dont think you need the clomid/nolva combo, just looking back over your thread I would do 3 weeks of nolva either 20/20/20 or 40/20/20, clomid can have some bad sides and its harsh on your system so with such a mild cycle I dont think you need to go through that, but thats your choice
    Thank you marcus.

    Something I do not get clear very well is why my LH and FSH did not go down comparing the values to when I was still natural.
    While, obviously, testosterone, testosterone free and SHBG decreased severely.

    It is like if my organism was "drained" of testosterone from oxandrolone but at the same time my inner glands did not stop producing testosterone.
    Is that correct?

    In this case, purely and theoretically speaking, a PCT may not be required since LH and FSH still function.
    So, my body should be able, in a longer time, to bring all the values related to testosterone back "in shape".
    Yet, the possibility of losing the lean mass acquired is a sureness and this is the reason why a PCT, in this specific case, is also a requirement.
    Is that correct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    Thank you marcus.

    Something I do not get clear very well is why my LH and FSH did not go down comparing the values to when I was still natural.
    While, obviously, testosterone, testosterone free and SHBG decreased severely.

    It is like if my organism was "drained" of testosterone from oxandrolone but at the same time my inner glands did not stop producing testosterone.
    Is that correct?

    In this case, purely and theoretically speaking, a PCT may not be required since LH and FSH still function.
    So, my body should be able, in a longer time, to bring all the values related to testosterone back "in shape".
    Yet, the possibility of loosing the lean mass acquired is a sureness and this is the reason why a PCT, in this specific case, is also a requirement.
    Is that correct?
    What was your TTl and free testosterone levels before the cycle?

    If you have normal or high levels of LH then your testicles are not responding to the signaling of the leydig cells to produce testosterone, once you stop the var hopefully the surpession will stop, I've seen alot worse Bloodwork so I wouldnt worry IMHO. Your BW is very similar to a friend of mine who only runs nolva and as no problems in bringing back his Test levels even with normal levels of LH.

    I dont really know if you could run no PCT and gain back your full test levels, I am sure in time you would be able to but along side muscle loss and a few other sides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    What was your TTl and free testosterone levels before the cycle?

    If you have normal or high levels of LH then your testicles are not responding to the signaling of the leydig cells to produce testosterone, once you stop the var hopefully the surpession will stop, I've seen alot worse Bloodwork so I wouldnt worry IMHO. Your BW is very similar to a friend of mine who only runs nolva and as no problems in bringing back his Test levels even with normal levels of LH.

    I dont really know if you could run no PCT and gain back your full test levels, I am sure in time you would be able to but along side muscle loss and a few other sides.
    So what you are saying is that it is not good to have LH in normal ranges while on cycle.

    INSULIN: 3,34 micru/ml [1,9 - 23]
    CORTISOL: 12,53 mg/dl [8,7 - 22,4]
    HTG: 7,65 ng/ml [0,0 - 35]
    PRL: 9,88 ng/ml [2,64 - 13,13]
    FT3: 3,48 pg/ml [2,2 - 4,7]
    FT4: 1,26 ng/dl [0,8 - 2]
    TESTOSTERONE TTL: 3,86 ng/ml [1,75 - 7,81]
    TESTOSTERONE FREE: 11,7 pg/ml [8 - 47]

    SHBG: 38 pg/ml [13 - 71]
    ESTRADIOL 17-BETA: 36 pg/ml [<20 - 47]
    PROGESTERONE: 0,93 ng/ml [0,14 - 2,06]
    FSH: 4,16 miu/ml [1,27 - 19,26]
    TSH: 2,92 micru/ml [0,34 - 5,6]
    LH: 3,80 miu/ml [1,24 - 8,62]
    DHEA: 7,3 ng/ml [2,5 - 9,5]
    DHEAS: 191 mcg/dl [106 - 464]
    DHT: 71 ng/ml [31 - 146]
    HGH: 0,2 ng/ml [0,0 - 10]

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    So what you are saying is that it is not good to have LH in normal ranges while on cycle.

    INSULIN: 3,34 micru/ml [1,9 - 23]
    CORTISOL: 12,53 mg/dl [8,7 - 22,4]
    HTG: 7,65 ng/ml [0,0 - 35]
    PRL: 9,88 ng/ml [2,64 - 13,13]
    FT3: 3,48 pg/ml [2,2 - 4,7]
    FT4: 1,26 ng/dl [0,8 - 2]
    TESTOSTERONE TTL: 3,86 ng/ml [1,75 - 7,81]
    TESTOSTERONE FREE: 11,7 pg/ml [8 - 47]

    SHBG: 38 pg/ml [13 - 71]
    ESTRADIOL 17-BETA: 36 pg/ml [<20 - 47]
    PROGESTERONE: 0,93 ng/ml [0,14 - 2,06]
    FSH: 4,16 miu/ml [1,27 - 19,26]
    TSH: 2,92 micru/ml [0,34 - 5,6]
    LH: 3,80 miu/ml [1,24 - 8,62]
    DHEA: 7,3 ng/ml [2,5 - 9,5]
    DHEAS: 191 mcg/dl [106 - 464]
    DHT: 71 ng/ml [31 - 146]
    HGH: 0,2 ng/ml [0,0 - 10]
    No not at all, its better than low test, low LH and completely shutdown isnt it

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