Another 30,000 troops to be deployed to Afghanistan

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2013 is the date that there will be 0 American Forces in those countries. Problem with timelines is.... they are lies. You cannot predict the future of an unstable country

[BgMc31]

2013 is the date that there will be 0 American Forces in those countries. Problem with timelines is.... they are lies. You cannot predict the future of an unstable country

That's a logistical impossibility. There is no way we will pull 100% of all troops out of those areas. Plus with a surge of additional trooops and over 200K troops in both Iraq and Afghanistan, there is no way we can pull all those troops and equipment out in such a short period of time.

[Kibble]

That's a logistical impossibility. There is no way we will pull 100% of all troops out of those areas. Plus with a surge of additional trooops and over 200K troops in both Iraq and Afghanistan, there is no way we can pull all those troops and equipment out in such a short period of time.

Absolutely right. However... the Army is taking the easy way out. Instead of shipping humvees and Armored vehicles back to the US, they are giving them to the Iraqis and Afghans

[BgMc31]

Absolutely right. However... the Army is taking the easy way out. Instead of shipping humvees and Armored vehicles back to the US, they are giving them to the Iraqis and Afghans

I see your point, but giving the Iraqi's humvees and stryker vehicles is minimal and inconsequential but they're hugely different than giving away M1A1 tanks, and Apache's. That stuff won't happen.

I just don't see a complete removal of forces from that area any time soon. The terrorist timetable argument was used before the surge in Iraq. And it's a flawed argument. Terrorists are going to be around whether we stay or leave.
But these countries are taking advantage of us and they need to know that we aren't going to be around forever and that they need to start taking care of their own countries. We cannot continue to beat our heads against the wall. The american people NEED to know when they can expect to see their families come home. Not having an exit strategy is fool hearted. And an exit strategy should not be open ended.

[TITANIUM]

I see your point, but giving the Iraqi's humvees and stryker vehicles is minimal and inconsequential but they're hugely different than giving away M1A1 tanks, and Apache's. That stuff won't happen.

I just don't see a complete removal of forces from that area any time soon. The terrorist timetable argument was used before the surge in Iraq. And it's a flawed argument. Terrorists are going to be around whether we stay or leave.
But these countries are taking advantage of us and they need to know that we aren't going to be around forever and that they need to start taking care of their own countries. We cannot continue to beat our heads against the wall. The american people NEED to know when they can expect to see their families come home. Not having an exit strategy is fool hearted. And an exit strategy should not be open ended.

I completely concur with you BgMc.The timelines are really done for political votes.Timeliness work when there is a war that "CAN" be one.This one is irretrievable.It was never conceived to win anything.Positive outcome? I'm not sure if they thought that far ahead.I knew we would not pull our troops out.It's an expensive clusterfvck.One that the US can't win, never mind fund.

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[Flagg]

I completely concur with you BgMc.The timelines are really done for political votes.Timeliness work when there is a war that "CAN" be one.This one is irretrievable.It was never conceived to win anything.Positive outcome? I'm not sure if they thought that far ahead.I knew we would not pull our troops out.It's an expensive clusterfvck.One that the US can't win, never mind fund.

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It's nice to know that when Politicians start seeing that the public is beginning to see through the rhetorical bullshit they spout, that they're happy to sacrifice soldiers soley with the promise that they'll be pulled out (conveninantly this oromise will happen JUST AFTER this candidate is elected) just to curry good favour. It's despicable.

[TITANIUM]

It's nice to know that when Politicians start seeing that the public is beginning to see through the rhetorical bullshit they spout, that they're happy to sacrifice soldiers soley with the promise that they'll be pulled out (conveninantly this oromise will happen JUST AFTER this candidate is elected) just to curry good favour. It's despicable.

It's true. The people here in the US are not buying this shit anymore.Took them long enough.Let us see how long it takes them to figure out what to do about it. I am politically active, so sending e-mails is normal."We The People", god dam it!!!

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