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IMO you dont have to have high carbs to bulk,you also dont have to sacrifice low bf ! I dont beleive in traditional bulking like so many here do! Most peoples bulking is a fat cycle,then when they try to diet all is lost.As of now im using 33%pro/63%fat/3%carbs and im bulking! As of today im 217 @12%. You dont have to have carbs to bulk you can use fats. Just my 2 cents!...TOP

[mg1228]

[QUOTE][QUOTE][QUOTE]****let's reduce cardio to one or two days a week. You are my height and about my weight. I am about ten pounds heavier. You are ecto? age?

[/meal 1 9am 2scoops whey banana 1/2 c oats with water 500cals 53p 56c 5.5
****whey is not a meal and this will not give you the nutrients you need to workout. I have done this exact meal (today actually) in emergency situations, but as for long term use it is no good.
ok-reason for meal is i workout 30 min later
workout 9:30-10:45
****can this be later in the day? we need 2-3 good meals before training (at least when I bulk)
guess it could b later--just used to it--got two kids--like to get it out of the way early
pwo meal 10:50 iso mass extreme gainer 650 cals 65p 80c 7f
****follow this with food. also make your bf shake this meal, drop the gainer. Your other shake is better cuz it has real food in it.
no problem
meal 3 12:00 8 oz lean protein 2 slice whole wheat 1 slice fat free cheese
lettuce 1/2 tsp light mayo 2cups lentil soup 720 cals 58p 66c 10f
****what protein? make this sweet potato, I bet you will get good gains from tons of sweet potato, best bulking carb imo.
lately its been chicken breast or turkey breast--but i got 96% gr beef
meal 4 3:30-4 1 sc casein 1apple 200cals 24p 29c 1f
****shakes are no good. too much time in between real meals.
gotcha--what do u recommend--kinda gotta make myself eat here
meal 5 6:00 same as meal 3 but veg soup 575 cals 53p 56c 10f
****what is with the soups? I need to know what protein
soups were to up carbs and cals--can easily do sw potatos--pro are always chicken breat,turkey,sirloin,or gr beef
meal 6 9:30-10 same as meal 5 but no soup 350 cals 40p 25c 4f
****once again tells me nothing.
now u know
meal 7 12-12:30am 1sc casein 2tbsp pb or 1tsp flax 250-300 cals depending on which fat source 24-32p 3c 14-16f
****red meat here. go get ground beef.
got gr beef--really cant do a real meal here--its after midnight--used to do 3 eggs 2 whole wheat and 2 tbsp pb--bout 500 cals
totals 3245 cals 323p 312c 50ishf (may have a few errors but i keep a log and it comes to about 3100-3200 cals a day)
(that is what i was doing) since Thanksgiving ive been doin this
****so below is your current diet? yes for the last week and a half
meal 1 1sc casein 1sc whey 1/2 cup oats1 fish oil 52p 32c 5.5f cals 400 (on cardio days i skip this meal so meal 2 is meal 1 after cardio
****eat real food.

workout
***same comment as above.
****Look at diet above and let's use that one. the one below looks like same as blah blah blah diet. too confusing.
pwo 2 sc whey 2tbsp pb 48p 7c 17f cals 421
meal3 6-8oz lean pro 2 slice whole wheat 1 slice fat free ch 1/2 tsp light mayo 1 hard boiled egg 51p 23c 12.5f cals 408
meal 4 1 sc casein 2 tbsp pb 1 egg 38p 9c 20f cals 380
meal 5 same as 3 51p 23c 12.5f cals 408
meal 6 same as 5 51p 23c 12.5f cals 408
meal 7 1sc casein 1serving flax or pb 32p 9c 17f cals 317
totals 320 pro 134c 100f cals 2700
some times i drop a carb meal and replace with pro/fat--been getting aroun 2800-3000 cals on my fitday log--i was 156 when i started this and was 154 this a.m.--prob some water and a little fat--was doin no cardio bfor starting this diet but i was lifting 6 days a week
thanks for all responses

make protein shake pwo look like your first shake of the day, and make your pwo shake followed within 45 minutes with a real meal that consists of real food like chicken or fish or I eat red meat. easy-already do

I want to see two or three red meats in your diet. also add blueberries or rasberries into your pwo meal. I also want to see veggies. post up new diet with your revised changes. IMO don't worry about how many calories your eating, just look at the right foods, in the right amounts, and eat them frequently.ok--somewhere around 3000 cals at a 40/40/20 split?

look for the **** above.

[mg1228]

IMO you dont have to have high carbs to bulk,you also dont have to sacrifice low bf ! I dont beleive in traditional bulking like so many here do! Most peoples bulking is a fat cycle,then when they try to diet all is lost.As of now im using 33%pro/63%fat/3%carbs and im bulking! As of today im 217 @12%. You dont have to have carbs to bulk you can use fats. Just my 2 cents!...TOP
Today 03:47 AM

this is why i keep bouncing back and forth--dont know what to do--i just want something that is right and will work and then ill stick to to it 100%

[Twist]

I don't agree with that.

He is bulking and needs to eat over. I would advise to watch closely if he were cutting but if he sticks to the diet he should be good. I also have different views in this area.

IMO you dont have to have high carbs to bulk,you also dont have to sacrifice low bf ! I dont beleive in traditional bulking like so many here do! Most peoples bulking is a fat cycle,then when they try to diet all is lost.As of now im using 33%pro/63%fat/3%carbs and im bulking! As of today im 217 @12%. You dont have to have carbs to bulk you can use fats. Just my 2 cents!...TOP

Let's see a pic top! 217 at 12% you're a beast man good job.

[Klimax]

Of course you need to eat more than you consume in bulking, but it doesn't mean that you can eat without control even if clean food.

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Of course you need to eat more than you consume in bulking, but it doesn't mean that you can eat without control even if clean food.

Agreed! too much over TDEE for the majority of people and the blubber becomes present.

[mg1228]

so how much over tdee do u recommend--

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so how much over tdee do u recommend--

I would start with 500 over TDEE with clean cals. This is going to be trial and error you may need more. Once the weight goes up, everything will need to be recalculated....TOP

[mg1228]

I would start with 500 over TDEE with clean cals. This is going to be trial and error you may need more. Once the weight goes up, everything will need to be recalculated....TOP

ok--thank you