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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    Nolvadex should be started at week 13 (40/40/20/20).
    Nobody can tell you how your body will respond so clomid should be on hand because, probably, you are going to need it.
    Good call for the blood work, you are the very first one I read who is including bw in his schedule.

    In any case, since you are only 22, I advise you not to cycle at all yet.
    First reach your own genetic limit, then in a few years from now, you may consider aas.

    Thank you for your quick response.

    When you say clomid should be on hand,do you mean it must be included in PCT?like in a traditional Clomid/Nolva PCT e.g
    Nolvadex - 40/20/20/20/20 (week 13-17)
    Clomid - 100/100/50 (week 13-15)

    For bloodwork I think we should all do it to insure our health,we put hours and hours of research into AAS to protect our health, to me it does not make sense not to get the bloodwork after investing all those hours.

    Going on a cycle is not set in stone , i am still open to trying more diffrent approaches to training and diet to improve my body.

    What age did you start?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiwa View Post
    Thank you for your quick response.

    When you say clomid should be on hand,do you mean it must be included in PCT?like in a traditional Clomid/Nolva PCT e.g
    Nolvadex - 40/20/20/20/20 (week 13-17)
    Clomid - 100/100/50 (week 13-15)

    For bloodwork I think we should all do it to insure our health,we put hours and hours of research into AAS to protect our health, to me it does not make sense not to get the bloodwork after investing all those hours.

    Going on a cycle is not set in stone , i am still open to trying more diffrent approaches to training and diet to improve my body.

    What age did you start?
    I am not a fan of traditional pct in the way that a person must have his own blood work done before and at the end of the bulking cycle to observe his personal situation and act accordingly regarding the pct, IMO.
    Said that, from what I have read and studied so far, a pct made by only nolva after a cycle of a long ester like test en, is a week pct. It could be enough but probably it will not.
    After a 10/12 weeks cycle on test en, you may want a standard pct on schedule, like clomid 100/100/50/50 and nolva 40/40/20/20.
    By comparing your blood works, you may change your lined pct at a later time. But it is a must to have both drugs, taking into account also toremifene.

    I started at 36 but my idea was to start at 30. I awaited though, because I knew I did not yet reach my genetic limit naturally.

    So, since you wrote your cycle is not set in stone, read what, not only myself, but also other members more experienced than me in this environment, have advised you... and do the right thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    I am not a fan of traditional pct in the way that a person must have his own blood work done before and at the end of the bulking cycle to observe his personal situation and act accordingly regarding the pct, IMO.
    Said that, from what I have read and studied so far, a pct made by only nolva after a cycle of a long ester like test en, is a week pct. It could be enough but probably it will not.
    After a 10/12 weeks cycle on test en, you may want a standard pct on schedule, like clomid 100/100/50/50 and nolva 40/40/20/20.
    By comparing your blood works, you may change your lined pct at a later time. But it is a must to have both drugs, taking into account also toremifene.

    I started at 36 but my idea was to start at 30. I awaited though, because I knew I did not yet reach my genetic limit naturally.

    So, since you wrote your cycle is not set in stone, read what, not only myself, but also other members more experienced than me in this environment, have advised you... and do the right thing.
    What about hCG for a first cycle?

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