I did a tren/test cycle years ago and this guy i hated but had to deal with always accused me of being on roids. One day the dude pushed me too far and I punched a 3200 dollar dent in his truck with him in it. I think at that point he could tell for sure I was on roids. Got charged with a felony too btw. Ended up costing me 8k for a lawyer and 5k for the damages,lost wages, and some other bs. I dont take tren anymore...