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Hi Ron, I just read your post here twice and I have a q for you. Could you do this sort of blast (reload for 8 weeks then deload for 2) with the oral PH epistane or would it be unsafe and why? If not, how long could I reload on it before I did my deload? I ask because I know orals are worse on your system. I have some epi on hand right now, so it would be great to hear your advice. During the deload should I or would it be neccessary/beneficial to PCT with nolva and something like PCT assist? If not, what would you recommend? Thanks very much, this is a great post.

[Ronnie Rowland]

hi ron, i just read your post here twice and i have a q for you. Could you do this sort of blast (reload for 8 weeks then deload for 2) with the oral ph epistane or would it be unsafe and why? yes, you could. I would recommend a 20 week cycle (2 Slingshot phases-containing 2-8 week reloads and 2-2 week deloads before doing a full pct. if not, how long could i reload on it before i did my deload? I ask because i know orals are worse on your system. I have some epi on hand right now, so it would be great to hear your advice. During the deload should i or would it be neccessary/beneficial to pct with nolva and something like pct assist? during deloads i would simply cut epistane dosage by half. It would be a good idea to double the dosages used during the first reload when you enter the second reload. if not, what would you recommend? wait and do full pct after going through 2 slingshot anabolic phases (20 weeks total). thanks very much, this is a great post.

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At the end of the 20 weeks (2 reloads and 2 deloads) you advise to do a full PCT. How long should i pct for and with what products and what amounts? All ive ever used for pct is nolva and pct assist, but i would like to hear your opinion. Also, how should i dose the epi throughout the 20 weeks? Ive done 1 prior cycle of h- DROL 50,50,75,75,75,75 with great results in IMO, i weigh 190 at 5,7, been lifting for 12 years if you need to know. What should i do if I develop signs of gyno? Cease use, add in nolva?? Im not sure here. Im just doing my h-work, as im a member of prohormoneforum, and all those guys over there say never to exceed 4 weeks on epi, why do they say that? Are they just freaked out? Thanks so much Ron

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At the end of the 20 weeks (2 reloads and 2 deloads) you advise to do a full PCT. How long should i pct for and with what products and what amounts? full pct:

Hcg 2500 is every other day for 2 weeks
clomid 50 mgs twice per day for 4 weeks
nolvadex 20 mgs per day for 4 weeks
All ive ever used for pct is nolva and pct assist, but i would like to hear your opinion. Also, how should i dose the epi throughout the 20 weeks? First reload about 30 per day, second reload about 50 per day and 10 mgs during both deloads. Ive done 1 prior cycle of h- DROL 50,50,75,75,75,75 with great results in IMO, i weigh 190 at 5,7, been lifting for 12 years if you need to know. What should i do if I develop signs of gyno? Cease use, add in nolva?? Just add in nolvadex. Im just doing my h-work, as im a member of prohormoneforum, and all those guys over there say never to exceed 4 weeks on epi, why do they say that? A major reason people never see good results with pro-hormones is they never use them for long enough periods. I've seen many people need 8 weeks (not 4 weeks) of taking 50 mgs of d-bol daily to make good gains. Are they just freaked out? Yes! Thanks so much Ron

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Thanks so much for the input Ron. Your help is greatly appreciated. As for the dosages you recommended, I only have 2 bottles of epi which dosed at your recommended 30/day, would only last the 1st 8 week reload. However, I also have 2 bottles of m14add, so could I use that for my 2nd reload? Which compound would be optimal 1st and which 2nd, and at what dosages for each? Also, would I still see good results in lean mass and strength with this 20 week blast if I am on a cutting diet (reduced carb, increased protein and healthy fats)?? I only consume 1750 cals a day 40p 40f 20c, or should i alter this and how?? Is hcg only injectable, or can i take it orally? I am trying to avoid pinning for personal life reasons Is there something else that could take its place ? Thank you very much Ron

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Thanks so much for the input Ron. Your help is greatly appreciated. As for the dosages you recommended, I only have 2 bottles of epi which dosed at your recommended 30/day, would only last the 1st 8 week reload. However, I also have 2 bottles of m14add, so could I use that for my 2nd reload? Which compound would be optimal 1st and which 2nd, and at what dosages for each? Also, would I still see good results in lean mass and strength with this 20 week blast if I am on a cutting diet (reduced carb, increased protein and healthy fats)?? I only consume 1750 cals a day 40p 40f 20c, or should i alter this and how?? Is hcg only injectable, or can i take it orally? I am trying to avoid pinning for personal life reasons Is there something else that could take its place ? Thank you very much Ron

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thanks so much for the input ron. Your help is greatly appreciated. As for the dosages you recommended, i only have 2 bottles of epi which dosed at your recommended 30/day, would only last the 1st 8 week reload. However, i also have 2 bottles of m14add, so could i use that for my 2nd reload? yes! which compound would be optimal 1st and which 2nd, and at what dosages for each? either way will be fine. Run all 4 bottles of pro-hormones during the span of 2-8 week reloads. Cut doses in half during deloads also, would i still see good results in lean mass and strength with this 20 week blast if i am on a cutting diet (reduced carb, increased protein and healthy fats)?? you'll see more leaness than strength if you cut carbs . I only consume 1750 cals a day 40p 40f 20c, or should i alter this and how?? i would take in around 250 grams of clean carbs per day, around 30 grams of healthy fat and the rest of your diet should be protein if you are wanting to lean out while gaining some mass. It's impossible for me to say how many calories you need because everyones metabolism/activitiy levels vary but for gaining size you may want to make an increase of at least 500 cals and go from there. is hcg only injectable, or can i take it orally? Injctable only i am trying to avoid pinning for personal life reasons is there something else that could take its place ? Nothank you very much ron

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You're a great help Ron, I'm formulating a great blast with all of your knowledge. A couple more Q's

How important is it exactly to run hcg during PCT? I have nolva and clomid, but I'm not sure where to get hcg? Please be brutally honest with this answer, as I don't want to seriously F up my PCT. Will I be fine with just nolva and clomid?

Is hcg strictly injectable?? Or can I get an oral form? Or is there another oral compound that could take the place of hcg??

Could you please help me structure a good, solid shoulder routine that I can utilize throughout my reloads and deloads? I don't have genetically strong shoulders, so I'm not a fan of overhead pressing of any form, as it never seems to work well for me.

Thanks a million Ron.