First cycle- test enanthate + dbol

[bjohnson1968]

why are you lowering dbol on non workout days wouldnt you achieve more consistant blood levels running the same dose everyday

[ironmanjames]

why are you lowering dbol on non workout days wouldnt you achieve more consistant blood levels running the same dose everyday

was lowering it on non workout days because i was little short for 30mg everyday for 5 weeks so i thought id drop it to 25mg on non workout days and stop on the friday of the last week

[POPS]

Just my 2 cents here...

Run the dbol for 4 weeks at the same dose. Dont change for workout/non-workout days. The test e plan is pretty standard.

I would assume that cycle assist is like life support by annabolic innovations. I has all the support for liver, chol, bp, prost, etc. Good idea here cause dbol is a tough one. Do you have anything in case of gyno? This needs to be lookied into

Pct should by ran for 4 weeks. Not worth any chances. You need to get those natural test #'s back to normal.

Last but not least,

AT YOUR AGE AND HEIGHT YOU WOULD BE BETTER OFF GETTING YOURSELF INTO A NICE LEAN/BULKING DIET AND TRAIN HEAVY!

ITS NOT WORTH SCREWING YOURSELF UP IN THE LONG RUN.

NOW IF YOU WERE IN YOUR 30'S ( LIKE ME ) ID SAY GO FOR IT! BELIEVE ME, YOU DO NOT WANT TO EXPERIENCE LOW LIBIDO, ED, ETC AT YOUR AGE...

SORRY IF THIS IS NOT WHAT YOU DO NOT WANT TO HEAR BUT I DONT WANT YOU TO TELL US HERE THAT WE TOLD YOU SO.....

[bjohnson1968]

Just my 2 cents here...

Run the dbol for 4 weeks at the same dose. Dont change for workout/non-workout days. The test e plan is pretty standard.

I would assume that cycle assist is like life support by annabolic innovations. I has all the support for liver, chol, bp, prost, etc. Good idea here cause dbol is a tough one. Do you have anything in case of gyno? This needs to be lookied into

Pct should by ran for 4 weeks. Not worth any chances. You need to get those natural test #'s back to normal.

Last but not least,

AT YOUR AGE AND HEIGHT YOU WOULD BE BETTER OFF GETTING YOURSELF INTO A NICE LEAN/BULKING DIET AND TRAIN HEAVY!

ITS NOT WORTH SCREWING YOURSELF UP IN THE LONG RUN.

NOW IF YOU WERE IN YOUR 30'S ( LIKE ME ) ID SAY GO FOR IT! BELIEVE ME, YOU DO NOT WANT TO EXPERIENCE LOW LIBIDO, ED, ETC AT YOUR AGE...

SORRY IF THIS IS NOT WHAT YOU DO NOT WANT TO HEAR BUT I DONT WANT YOU TO TELL US HERE THAT WE TOLD YOU SO.....

>>>>x2

[ironmanjames]

Just my 2 cents here...

Run the dbol for 4 weeks at the same dose. Dont change for workout/non-workout days. The test e plan is pretty standard.

I would assume that cycle assist is like life support by annabolic innovations. I has all the support for liver, chol, bp, prost, etc. Good idea here cause dbol is a tough one. Do you have anything in case of gyno? This needs to be lookied into

Pct should by ran for 4 weeks. Not worth any chances. You need to get those natural test #'s back to normal.

Last but not least,

AT YOUR AGE AND HEIGHT YOU WOULD BE BETTER OFF GETTING YOURSELF INTO A NICE LEAN/BULKING DIET AND TRAIN HEAVY!

ITS NOT WORTH SCREWING YOURSELF UP IN THE LONG RUN.

NOW IF YOU WERE IN YOUR 30'S ( LIKE ME ) ID SAY GO FOR IT! BELIEVE ME, YOU DO NOT WANT TO EXPERIENCE LOW LIBIDO, ED, ETC AT YOUR AGE...

SORRY IF THIS IS NOT WHAT YOU DO NOT WANT TO HEAR BUT I DONT WANT YOU TO TELL US HERE THAT WE TOLD YOU SO.....

thanks for the reply

I'll run the dbol for 4 weeks at 30mg ED

yes the cycle assist is very similar to life support. i should run this for the full 10 weeks right?

i have extra nolvadex on hand incase of gyno
i was thinking of running at 20mg ED while on cycle if that would help?

ill run pct for 4 weeks starting 2 weeks after my last injection
Day 1 - Clomid 200mg + Nolvadex 40mg
rest of week 1 - clomid 100mg + nolva dex 40mg
week 2 - clomid 50mg + nolvadex 20mg
week 3 - clomid 50mg + nolvadex 20mg
week 4 - clomid 50mg + nolvadex 20mg

i read to dose day 1 like that incase angrogen levels are still a little high?

[**TOP**]

This comment scares me! "my diet is good. i have about 7 meals a day including protein shakes" Whenever i see this its usually saying my diet is NOT that good. Post up your diet and lets have a look,why not its free advice!!...TOP

[bjohnson1968]

This comment scares me! "my diet is good. i have about 7 meals a day including protein shakes" Whenever i see this its usually saying my diet is NOT that good. Post up your diet and lets have a look,why not its free advice!!...TOP

I'm with TOP
without proper diet you wont get the results your looking for out of your cycle

[ironmanjames]

diet looks roughly like this.

1) oats, egg whites and eggs 30g whey isolate
2) pwo shake- 50g whey isolate, about 70g dextrose
3) 1 cup basmati rice, 250-300g chicken breast
4) pasta, 200-250g chicken breast
5) 200grams tuna
6) 300g steak
7) 30g whey + 30gcasien + 2tbl spoons peanut butter

its sometimes a little different because i sometimes eat salmon and cottage cheese. but it roughly looks like this

i also take fish oil, flaxeed oil and a multi vitamin

[Hard.On]

diet looks roughly like this.

1) oats, egg whites and eggs 30g whey isolate
2) pwo shake- 50g whey isolate, about 70g dextrose
3) 1 cup basmati rice, 250-300g chicken breast
4) pasta, 200-250g chicken breast
5) 200grams tuna
6) 300g steak
7) 30g whey + 30gcasien + 2tbl spoons peanut butter

its sometimes a little different because i sometimes eat salmon and cottage cheese. but it roughly looks like this

i also take fish oil, flaxeed oil and a multi vitamin

Your diet is pretty good for someone your size,
If you keep with this, you will gain some more size over the next couple months naturally.

Some will complain that you are substituting with too many protien shakes,
however 30g of protien is 30g of protein any way you look at it

[**TOP**]

diet looks roughly like this.

1) oats, egg whites and eggs 30g whey isolate
2) pwo shake- 50g whey isolate, about 70g dextrose
3) 1 cup basmati rice, 250-300g chicken breast
4) pasta, 200-250g chicken breast
5) 200grams tuna
6) 300g steak
7) 30g whey + 30gcasien + 2tbl spoons peanut butter

its sometimes a little different because i sometimes eat salmon and cottage cheese. but it roughly looks like this

i also take fish oil, flaxeed oil and a multi vitamin

How does this correlate with your TDEE? You say oats,i want to know the amounts,calorie breakdown. I would toss the dextrose.How much pasta?Whats the point in the whey isolate along with theegg whites in the first meal? Whats the quantity of fish oil? Thats calories also...TOP