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    Quote Originally Posted by coca cola View Post
    damn ron! Thank you so much for such a detailed explanation! You're awesome!

    For my next cycle i will follow your advice, i will use hcg throughout the 20 week cycle.

    Just one last thing i need to make sure from you, if i do such protocol where i use the hcg all the way through, and succesfully prevent testicular shrinkage, is it still required to do your aggressive pct where you recommend to take hcg 2500iu eod for the first 2 weeks of pct + 4 weeks of clomid 50mg/day + 4 weeks of nolva 20mg/day? Would that be an overkill? yes, that would be overkill. When using 500 ius of hcg per week (though two weekly injection of 250 ius) throughout entire cycle (starting hcg 1 week after first injection) you'll want to stop the hcg before you start pct with clomid/nolva so your leydig cells will begin to become sensitized to your lh production. At the end of the 20 week slingshot cycle, stop using hcg 1 week before the test enanthate clears your system. Once again this is week 21! This produces a more even clearance in hormonal levels, while initiating fsh and lh production so testes will start producing test once again.

    can i just use clomid 50mg ed for 4 weeks instead, and leave out the hcg and the nolva? you could get by with clomid only if desired but it's best to use nolva for optimal results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post
    Answers above in bold.
    Thank you once again for the clarification!

    I'm now ready to try out your Slingshot Cycling combine with Slingshot Training! I'll start out the slingshot training naturally first though, then a few months from now, I'll start the cycle.

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    great post !!

    I am planning to do the following cycle:-

    Weeks 1-10: Test E 250mg x2 per week (500mg total) [Reload]
    Weeks 5-11: hCG 250iu x 2 per week [Deload]
    Weeks 12+: Nolva 40/20/20/20/10+Aromasin 10/5/5/5/5/5 [PCT]

    I just want to do a single cycle of test...do you think the above is well laid out?

    I will be using the slingshot training program..

    Also, I just did a H-drol solo cycle ( which was my firs cycle) and my PCT ends today..My libido didn't suffer any setback during the entire cycle, i made some average gains which i wasn't satisfied with much...is there anything wrong if i begin my test cycle next month (i.e. a break of 1month)

    any changes to be made to my cycle ronnie?


    thanks!
    Last edited by blitzkrieg1985; 02-14-2010 at 01:10 PM.

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    ronnie...the competitors at my gym... are quite interested in knowing how many sets per each body part you be doing precontest.... when is show date>>>...

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    Quote Originally Posted by VASCULAR VINCE View Post
    ronnie...the competitors at my gym... are quite interested in knowing how many sets per each body part you be doing precontest.... when is show date>>>...
    Show date is June 5th.
    I just turned 44 so at my age I do not recover as well joint wise of cns wise so I cannot do 12 sets per major body part without becoming over-trained. My pre-contest schedule stays the same as my off-season schedule:

    EACH SET TAKEN TO FAILURE (WARM UP SETS NOT INCLUDED)

    Chest 9 sets 3 exercises
    Lats 12 sets 4 exercises
    Shoulders 9 sets 3 exercises
    Biceps 8 sets 2 exercises
    Triceps 9 sets 3 exercises
    Quads 10 sets 3 exercises
    Hams 6 sets 2 exercises
    Calves 6 sets 1 exercise
    Abs 6 sets 1 exercise
    Traps 6 sets 1 exercise
    Forearms 6 sets 2 exercises

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    Quote Originally Posted by blitzkrieg1985 View Post
    great post !!

    I am planning to do the following cycle:-

    weeks 1-10: Test e 250mg x2 per week (500mg total) [reload]
    weeks 5-11: Hcg 250iu x 2 per week [deload]
    weeks 12+: Nolva 40/20/20/20/10+aromasin 10/5/5/5/5/5 [pct]

    i just want to do a single cycle of test...do you think the above is well laid out? i would go with a 20 week cycle. Might as well do it right if you are going to do it at all! You will be dissapointed with the results of an 8 week cycle imo.

    i will be using the slingshot training program..

    Also, i just did a h-drol solo cycle ( which was my firs cycle) and my pct ends today..my libido didn't suffer any setback during the entire cycle, i made some average gains which i wasn't satisfied with much...is there anything wrong if i begin my test cycle next month (i.e. A break of 1month)

    any changes to be made to my cycle ronnie? you'll be fine to start test cycle tommorrow if desired since pct ended today.

    thanks!
    answers above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post
    answers above.
    thank you so much for the answers ronnie..based on your advice, I planned out the following cycle, please critique it:

    Week 1-8: Reload Test-E [500mg]
    Week 9-10: Deload Test-E [250mg]
    Week 11-18: Reload Test-E [500mg]
    Week 19-20: Reload Test-E [250mg]

    Week 21 I begin my PCT: Could you please recommend me the dosages and duration for Nolva,clomid and Hcg

    The above cycle demands 9000mg test-E or 36ml test-E at 250mg/ml.
    I am on a budget and wanted to complete my cycle with 2 bottles of test-E (10 ml, 250mg/ml), 1 vial of HCG (5000iu)

    Could you recommend me something on those lines??

    Thanks !!!
    Last edited by blitzkrieg1985; 02-15-2010 at 02:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blitzkrieg1985 View Post
    thank you so much for the answers ronnie..based on your advice, i planned out the following cycle, please critique it:

    Week 1-8: Reload test-e [500mg]
    week 9-10: Deload test-e [250mg]
    week 11-18: Reload test-e [500mg] (i would go up to 750 here if you can afford to do so when the time comes. If not, stay at 500 as you have it laid out).week 19-20: Reload test-e [250mg]

    week 21 i begin my pct: Could you please recommend me the dosages and duration for nolva,clomid and hcg

    full pct:hcg 2500 is every other day for 2 weeks
    clomid 50 mgs twice per day for 4 weeks
    nolvadex 20 mgs per day for 4 weeks

    the above cycle demands 9000mg test-e or 36ml test-e at 250mg/ml.
    I am on a budget and wanted to complete my cycle with 2 bottles of test-e (10 ml, 250mg/ml), 1 vial of hcg (5000iu) in this case injects the hcg twice a week on nonconsecutive days during week 21.
    could you recommend me something on those lines??

    Thanks !!!
    answers above in bold

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