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    hi ron, approaching my second phase of the 20 week cycle - just completed dbol sustanon and deca, my plan was to use tri-test, tren and anadrol for my second phase (i agree that subsituting the compounds used would not normally have a significant bearing on gains as suggested in anabolics 9th edition) but i feel that the esthers of tri-test and tri-tren would complement each other better than sust and deca as they are long esthered. anyway, i was thinking of using primpbolan instead of anadrol for quality muscle gains and minimal water retention.
    so - 1000mg test, 400-600 tren, 600-800 primo.
    using hcg during the cycle aswell as after for pct.
    what do you think?
    thanks.

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    ronnie...doing extra work sets really bring up weak body parts... or... myth???

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    Quote Originally Posted by VASCULAR VINCE View Post
    ronnie...doing extra work sets really bring up weak body parts... or... myth???
    I'd like to know this too.

    For example my left lats dont flare out as much as the right one, how do I balance them out, in term of strength when doing back work, they're very similar, but I dunno why the left one does not have the size of the right one...
    Same goes with my left chest is slightly smaller then the right one.

    What can I do to balance them out to get better symmetry Ronnie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coca Cola View Post
    I'd like to know this too.

    For example my left lats dont flare out as much as the right one, how do I balance them out, in term of strength when doing back work, they're very similar, but I dunno why the left one does not have the size of the right one...
    Same goes with my left chest is slightly smaller then the right one.

    What can I do to balance them out to get better symmetry Ronnie?
    My left pec is also smaller as is my left bicep. I personally wouldn't worry too much about it unless I was getting paid large sums of cash as a professional bodybuilder. No one notices it but you!

    1) If it's a matter of a particular muscle not getting as much stimulation as the one located on the other side, then adding a couple of extra sets using a unilateral movement can help.

    2) If its a matter of your left pectoral having less type-2 fibers or a different shape there's nothing that can be done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VASCULAR VINCE View Post
    ronnie...doing extra work sets really bring up weak body parts... or... myth???
    The size of individualistic body parts is mostly determined by genetics! The guy with the largest chest in our gym (one of my trainees) does only 9 work sets for his chest and it's HUGE!! We've been as high as 12 but he did better with 9 sets. When we first began training we started at only 6 sets per week for his chest and with only 6 sets he was able to surpass the rest of us. The real shocker is that he was able to do it without taking steroids! His dad had a really big chest and he inherited one as well.

    Let pretend, you had a lagging chest and have been doing only 4 work sets per week. If that be the case, then going up to 9-10 sets would help to some degree. On the other hand,if you were already doing 10 intense work sets for your chest then going up to 15-20 work sets would not increase development but rather hinder growth by way of over-training. This is where the concept of "less is more" came about but unfortunately some have went to extremes by thinking only a couple of sets per week is all that's needed and that's simply untrue.

    Training with great intensity while using impeccable form while using a moderate amount of sets is the key to bringing up weak points as much as humanly possible. If your training is already in the ball park then the only hope you have at improving a lagging muscle group is using better form. High intensity training, moderate sets, heavy weight in 8-12 rep-range, and excellent form is the best thing you can do. You can also experiment with using a greater variety of exercises (3 or 4 exercises) using only a couple of sets and you can also experiment with only (1-2 exercises) using multiple sets per each exercise to see which method works best.

    NOTE: You can't shock a lagging muscle groups into growing by using fancing training techniques such as rest-pause, superset, forced reps or drop sets beyond what can be accomplished with straight sets. In fact, taining to good failure with straight sets works best for bringing up lagging muscle groups!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricky23 View Post
    hi ron, approaching my second phase of the 20 week cycle - just completed dbol sustanon and deca, my plan was to use tri-test, tren and anadrol for my second phase (i agree that subsituting the compounds used would not normally have a significant bearing on gains as suggested in anabolics 9th edition) but i feel that the esthers of tri-test and tri-tren would complement each other better than sust and deca as they are long esthered. anyway, i was thinking of using primpbolan instead of anadrol for quality muscle gains and minimal water retention.
    so - 1000mg test, 400-600 tren, 600-800 primo.
    using hcg during the cycle aswell as after for pct.
    what do you think?
    thanks.
    I would save my money and just go with the test and tren as I do not think adding the primo is strong enough to do anything beyond what tren/test will provide.

    HCG is not need post cycle if used throughout cycle!

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