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    Quote Originally Posted by gbrice75 View Post
    Hmm... well that wouldn't be ideal! Whenever I do start a clean bulk, I always pictured cycling bulk/cut/bulk/cut and so on.... maybe 3-4 month cycles for each. Am I really going to put back on a significant amount of bodyfat doing that? Ugh... I can't imagine getting abs only to lose them a few months later. =(
    Dieting isnt like AAS usage. This cut-bulk-cut-bulk diet cycling is one of the worst enemies to peoples progress in my opinion. I have bulked twice in my life. Both times I was able to put in nearly 50lbs and both times when I dieted down for my next show I was only 2-3 lbs heavier. Could have had just as good if not better results from just slowly adding muscle and dropping fat over the same course of time. Even the best bulking diets usually end up adding muscle and fat at the same ratio then you have to diet your ass off to get the fat off and usually end up losing the majority of the muscle you attained anyways.

    If you are an extreme ectomorph bulking may be what you need. This is not the case with you, you are genetically pre-dispositioned to store bodyfat at a higher percentage than the average person. Bulking is probably not something that will ever be a good choice for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireGuy1 View Post
    Dieting isnt like AAS usage. This cut-bulk-cut-bulk diet cycling is one of the worst enemies to peoples progress in my opinion. Wow, really? I honestly didn't know there was any other way!

    I have bulked twice in my life. Both times I was able to put in nearly 50lbs and both times when I dieted down for my next show I was only 2-3 lbs heavier. Could have had just as good if not better results from just slowly adding muscle and dropping fat over the same course of time. Even the best bulking diets usually end up adding muscle and fat at the same ratio then you have to diet your ass off to get the fat off and usually end up losing the majority of the muscle you attained anyways.I agree that would suck in a big way...

    If you are an extreme ectomorph bulking may be what you need. This is not the case with you, you are genetically pre-dispositioned to store bodyfat at a higher percentage than the average person.How did you determine this? I'm not arguing, just curious...keep in mind that the 70+ lbs. I lost was put on over the course of almost 10 years with a TERRIBLE diet and zero exercise... I actually should probably have gotten much fatter!

    Bulking is probably not something that will ever be a good choice for you.Ok, i'm getting really confused! Maybe i'm using the wrong terminology when I say 'bulking'. What I mean is that I am currently eating around 2000 calories a day. I am at a caloric deficit and know i'll never put on an ounce of muscle at that low intake... so once i'm happy with my bodyfat and up my calories to a surplus over my TDEE, wouldn't that be considered bulking? Again, maybe it's the wrong term. I just want to put on lean mass, not sure how I can do that without eating more than I burn??? Obviously somebody like me would have to eat ultra clean whether i'm cutting or 'bulking'...
    Thanks for all of your guidance on this FG.... I know i'll make it eventually!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireGuy1 View Post
    Dieting isnt like AAS usage. This cut-bulk-cut-bulk diet cycling is one of the worst enemies to peoples progress in my opinion. I have bulked twice in my life. Both times I was able to put in nearly 50lbs and both times when I dieted down for my next show I was only 2-3 lbs heavier. Could have had just as good if not better results from just slowly adding muscle and dropping fat over the same course of time. Even the best bulking diets usually end up adding muscle and fat at the same ratio then you have to diet your ass off to get the fat off and usually end up losing the majority of the muscle you attained anyways.

    If you are an extreme ectomorph bulking may be what you need. This is not the case with you, you are genetically pre-dispositioned to store bodyfat at a higher percentage than the average person. Bulking is probably not something that will ever be a good choice for you.
    lol so true..i am one of those people thats naturally destined to put on fat very quickly and i did a big bulker last year, gained at ton of fat and water and muscle..now that ive been cutting since last june i pretty much lost all the muscle and strength (although am leaner then before bulking) so we're screwed, just keep cutting my boy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockin Z28 View Post
    lol so true..i am one of those people thats naturally destined to put on fat very quickly and i did a big bulker last year, gained at ton of fat and water and muscle..now that ive been cutting since last june i pretty much lost all the muscle and strength (although am leaner then before bulking) so we're screwed, just keep cutting my boy
    I hear you man, but if I keep cutting forever, how will I ever put on any size/muscle?

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