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    Quote Originally Posted by scorgasm View Post
    So after years have using aas have you had any adverse health effects?
    I've had a few complaints such as blood pressure and hairloss ect but I would say the most adverse ones would be when I had Polycythemia in which I was hospitalised and had to have a venus section because my RBC's were at a very dangerous level, I feel this was my own fault though because I was having regular bloodwork done but I decided that I didn't need it for a few months and I was cycling heavy which resulted in my having polycythemia, words of wisdom get regular blood work done if your cycling it can safe your life.

    I am also on HRT for life which is a direct result of using AAS which I feel is the most adverse side effect I've had, I went through hell everyday when I had low testosterone, the demons were very hard to cope with and with all the other sides effects of low Test it was unbearable

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    I am also on HRT for life which is a direct result of using AAS which I feel is the most adverse side effect I've had, I went through hell everyday when I had low testosterone, the demons were very hard to cope with and with all the other sides effects of low Test it was unbearable
    Me right now. I been off for 8 weeks tomorrow. I am supposed to get back on wed. My test levels are low. I was diving for 4 hours on sat. I came home sat night and was in bed at 8 pm. Life without testosterone and life with testosterone are two different things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PharmDoc-Cyrus View Post
    Me right now. I been off for 8 weeks tomorrow. I am supposed to get back on wed. My test levels are low. I was diving for 4 hours on sat. I came home sat night and was in bed at 8 pm. Life without testosterone and life with testosterone are two different things.
    How old are you?
    What are your natural levels?
    When do you think you will swap that weak HCG in for HRT then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    How old are you?
    What are your natural levels?
    When do you think you will swap that weak HCG in for HRT then?
    Gonna be 40 pretty soon.

    Natural levels...lol When I was 35 I did a spot on pct and stayed off 5 months came back 314. If there is a high from aas I had it when I got back on after that failure. lol

    I get off and use hCG just for myostatin. Hell I know it would feel better if I kept taking 200mgs a week but you know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PharmDoc-Cyrus View Post
    Gonna be 40 pretty soon.

    Natural levels...lol When I was 35 I did a spot on pct and stayed off 5 months came back 314. If there is a high from aas I had it when I got back on after that failure. lol

    I get off and use hCG just for myostatin. Hell I know it would feel better if I kept taking 200mgs a week but you know...
    swifto posted an interesting thread about creatine blocking myostatin

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    Quote Originally Posted by declan11 View Post
    swifto posted an interesting thread about creatine blocking myostatin
    If it worked all the 16 year-olds would be giants from wal-mart creatine. 56 days on cycle and you are upregulated. About 20 weeks myostatin drops but it is unclear for how long and so on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PharmDoc-Cyrus View Post
    If it worked all the 16 year-olds would be giants from wal-mart creatine. 56 days on cycle and you are upregulated. About 20 weeks myostatin drops but it is unclear for how long and so on...
    dunno, he's quite on the ball with all this stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by PharmDoc-Cyrus View Post
    Gonna be 40 pretty soon.

    Natural levels...lol When I was 35 I did a spot on pct and stayed off 5 months came back 314. If there is a high from aas I had it when I got back on after that failure. lol

    I get off and use hCG just for myostatin. Hell I know it would feel better if I kept taking 200mgs a week but you know...
    So you don't know what your levels are to date? last bloodwork was 5 yrs ago?

    It is so hard to maintain at our age, I struggled so much for about 3 years trying to recover and bring back my natural test levels but each time after I cycled it was getting worse and worse no matter what I did, my Doctor had no other choice HRT completely changed my life it was like going back 20yrs

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    So you don't know what your levels are to date? last bloodwork was 5 yrs ago?

    It is so hard to maintain at our age, I struggled so much for about 3 years trying to recover and bring back my natural test levels but each time after I cycled it was getting worse and worse no matter what I did, my Doctor had no other choice HRT completely changed my life it was like going back 20yrs
    No, I have had blood work done regularly. Generally it is in the 170-190s. But, as you mentioned it is hard to maintain at my age. I do not stay off for over 8 weeks which is needed to see HPTA recovery. The blood work is not impartial.

    Its harder here than in state side, staying off that is. Aas are sold in every grocery store and there are as many pharmacies as churches, no script needed. So talk about fighting your demons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PharmDoc-Cyrus View Post
    No, I have had blood work done regularly. Generally it is in the 170-190s. But, as you mentioned it is hard to maintain at my age. I do not stay off for over 8 weeks which is needed to see HPTA recovery. The blood work is not impartial.

    Its harder here than in state side, staying off that is. Aas are sold in every grocery store and there are as many pharmacies as churches, no script needed. So talk about fighting your demons.
    I would say the only option is HRT for you big guy, I cant see any reason trying to recover with such low natural test and even if you stayed off cycle long enough for full recovery of your HPTA it isnt going to be any better IMHO especially at your age.

    Blast cycles coupled with HRT dose may be a great option

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