Vatican Library, March 2010 the 20th (alone...)

[Mooseman33]

^^^^^

like i said, class act....

[QuieTSToRM33]

What type of documents, writings, scripts, texts, books would you like to burn exactly?

Perhaps the ones, which I already read, that show how the Darwin's theory is fallacious and created to indoctrinate. (sounds familiar doesn't it ?)

The Catholic church is preaching that Darwinism is a fallacy ... no way.

BJJ ... I'll stop there ... cause we're boys and this will lead to nothing.

Have fun bro ... I know you'll find some interesting material, which I honestly wouldn't mind reading.

[l2elapse]

information on the the mormon religion by any chance in there?

[Nooomoto]

You guys better not get out of hand...or this guy and his friends will come and sort you out!! And if you do get out of hand...you better not do it at a circus, or you'll never see them coming!

[BJJ]

Stuff on martin luther would be cool or historical info on crusades.

I took notice of it.

[BJJ]

information on the the mormon religion by any chance in there?

I can tell you anything you want right away, lol
You really do not need The Vatican Library for that.

[BJJ]

The Catholic church is preaching that Darwinism is a fallacy ... no way.

BJJ ... I'll stop there ... cause we're boys and this will lead to nothing.

Have fun bro ... I know you'll find some interesting material, which I honestly wouldn't mind reading.

You and who else, since I am a man.

For your information, especially after the Second Vatican Council, the Catholic theology, negotiating with the theory of evolution, has made considerable progress and established some fundamental questions of faith on the origin of man, to the action of God in the world and to the doctrine on the original sin.

[QuieTSToRM33]

You and who else, since I am a man.

For your information, especially after the Second Vatican Council, the Catholic theology, negotiating with the theory of evolution, has made considerable progress and established some fundamental questions of faith on the origin of man, to the action of God in the world and to the doctrine on the original sin.

You obviously don't understand what I meant by "we're boys".

I'll just leave it at that then since I'm not going to get into a pissing match over the Vatican.

[BJJ]

You obviously don't understand what I meant by "we're boys".

I'll just leave it at that then since I'm not going to get into a pissing match over the Vatican.

Good call, because it does not seem to me you know much about it, Darwin's romance included.

[Hunter]

I took notice of it.

Thank you for that. I am very very interested in martin luther and have read a few of his books. Thanks Bjj

[Flagg]

Darwin IS the man.

[MotoLifter]

shame, the second people read the title they instantly assumed religion.

was just thinking that EXACT same thing. tradjic.

enjoy BJJ, for all of us who will never.


Moto

[Friend]

I bet there is an abundance of kiddy porn

[stevey_6t9]

What type of documents, writings, scripts, texts, books would you like to burn exactly?

Perhaps the ones, which I already read, that show how the Darwin's theory is fallacious and created to indoctrinate.
Perhaps you want to burn the phots of several human skeletons with the same size and proportions of ours but with an age of 3 millions years old...
Or maybe, you want to burn their texts dating evidences?

Agree with D7M.

i hope your joking here BJJ. evolution is a accepted proven theory.

[kalspic]

ALRIGHT GUYS, LETS COOL THIS THREAD DOWN AND STICK TO THE TOPIC. its interesting indeed, very very few get this oppertunity so lets see what bjj can do for us.

any more ideas on what to look for guys?

[KimboHalfSlice]

I don't know why people are making comments stating that this discussion has anything to do with religion. I haven't heard a single comment regarding religion yet.

I'm criticising the Catholic Church in their capacity as a business organisation, not as a religion.

I don't care if a business organisation is religion-orientated or not, they can't get away with sexually assualt.

Since people are finding it difficult to separate religion from this discussion, so let's pretend we're talking about Honda instead of the Catholic Church.

Honda's a big company with factories around the world. Now, hypothetically speaking, let's say that loads and loads of Honda mechanics start raping children all over the world.

What should Honda do? Honda should fire the mechanics! Not only that, it should probably start screening new mechanics since so many of them turned out to be child rapists.

Now, let's say, instead of firing the mechanics, Honda just moves them to a new factory in a different part of the world! Honda moves the mechanics to somewhere where nobody knows them, and not a word more is said about. This works out for Honda most of the time but then they have the mechanics that will rape more kids in their new factory.

So let's say this goes on for decades, Honda mechanics are raping kids left right and centre, and they get shuffled around from factory to factory to cover things up.

What would your opinion of Honda be? They're a pack of scumbags and they should be murdered in cold blood.

Now, BJJ, you come along with a thread saying that you have special access to a library owned by Honda. Now since Honda is so hated, since Honda is such a pile of scum, wouldn't you expect people to react negatively? Wouldn't you expect people to instruct you to burn the place to the ground?

But of course Honda is a wonderful automobile manufacturer and they'd never let this happen.

It's the Catholic Church that rapes kids, it's the Catholic Church that protects the rapists and covers up the rapes. It's the Catholic Church that offers no assitance to the rape victims, it's the Catholic Church that offers nothing but denial to the victims.

One more thing: What you said about the 3 million year old skeletons. Are you saying that the Catholic Church is withholding information which could advance our research in the origins of man? Sounds like a really scumbag thing to do. What else are they withholding that could help humanity?

[kalspic]

its slowly turning into a religous thread. darwinism and evolution are connected to christianity(probably any religion at that).

i and others should respect each owns oppion and i will. im ignorant to this whole topic nor do i care much at all. im more interested in the historical aspect of this whole topic.

[BJJ]

was just thinking that EXACT same thing. tradjic.

enjoy BJJ, for all of us who will never.


Moto

I will, thanks.

I bet there is an abundance of kiddy porn

No comment.
In any case, if you are interested in that sort of material, you can go to Sweden...
http://www.thelocal.se/18704/20090406/

ALRIGHT GUYS, LETS COOL THIS THREAD DOWN AND STICK TO THE TOPIC. its interesting indeed, very very few get this oppertunity so lets see what bjj can do for us.

any more ideas on what to look for guys?

That is all I was asking for, to have cues on topics to look for since I have only one day time in a place where an entire life time would not be enough.

Why is this understood only by a few?
... or, Why is this not understood by the majority?

[BJJ]

i hope your joking here BJJ. evolution is a accepted proven theory.

Che tristezza...

[BJJ]

I don't know why people are making comments stating that this discussion has anything to do with religion. I haven't heard a single comment regarding religion yet.

I'm criticising the Catholic Church in their capacity as a business organisation, not as a religion.

I don't care if a business organisation is religion-orientated or not, they can't get away with sexually assualt.

Since people are finding it difficult to separate religion from this discussion, so let's pretend we're talking about Honda instead of the Catholic Church.

Honda's a big company with factories around the world. Now, hypothetically speaking, let's say that loads and loads of Honda mechanics start raping children all over the world.

What should Honda do? Honda should fire the mechanics! Not only that, it should probably start screening new mechanics since so many of them turned out to be child rapists.

Now, let's say, instead of firing the mechanics, Honda just moves them to a new factory in a different part of the world! Honda moves the mechanics to somewhere where nobody knows them, and not a word more is said about. This works out for Honda most of the time but then they have the mechanics that will rape more kids in their new factory.

So let's say this goes on for decades, Honda mechanics are raping kids left right and centre, and they get shuffled around from factory to factory to cover things up.

What would your opinion of Honda be? They're a pack of scumbags and they should be murdered in cold blood.

Now, BJJ, you come along with a thread saying that you have special access to a library owned by Honda. Now since Honda is so hated, since Honda is such a pile of scum, wouldn't you expect people to react negatively? Wouldn't you expect people to instruct you to burn the place to the ground?

But of course Honda is a wonderful automobile manufacturer and they'd never let this happen.

It's the Catholic Church that rapes kids, it's the Catholic Church that protects the rapists and covers up the rapes. It's the Catholic Church that offers no assitance to the rape victims, it's the Catholic Church that offers nothing but denial to the victims.

One more thing: What you said about the 3 million year old skeletons. Are you saying that the Catholic Church is withholding information which could advance our research in the origins of man? Sounds like a really scumbag thing to do. What else are they withholding that could help humanity?

There are so many other bad examples you could come up with...
Just to name two of them, pharmaceutical companies experimenting new drugs on poor kids taken away from their family either in Africa and Brazil or, always towards the needy, babies who are implanted with microchip as soon as they are born to learn how to control their mind inducting special electric signals... (religions are losing power so this will be the next step to rule the humanity).

The world is full of those happenings but still there are many things which should be saved, and knowledge, especialy when hidden to the majority, is one of them.

[stevey_6t9]

Che tristezza...

i feel really sorry.

[BJJ]

Last opportunity, countdown has started.
Minus 11 hours...

[BJJ]

Darwin IS the man.

While Saint Joan of Arc was a woman...

[Flagg]

While I dont want to derail this thread I cant believe you would think that evolution is some sort of "indoctrinated tool". I've just spent an entire semester studying Evolution and if you think think things like the Hardy Weinburg equation and alleles and genotypes and genetic drift is "stuff made up", all i can say is "wow".

But back on topic, it should be interesting going there. I wish it had been open in February cause I was in Rome then.

[BJJ]

While I dont want to derail this thread I cant believe you would think that evolution is some sort of "indoctrinated tool". I've just spent an entire semester studying Evolution and if you think think things like the Hardy Weinburg equation and alleles and genotypes and genetic drift is "stuff made up", all i can say is "wow".

But back on topic, it should be interesting going there. I wish it had been open in February cause I was in Rome then.

I would not rely too much on what one can study on university books written by who?... professors who follow the doctrinal science, therefore cannot be by any chance against the system.

I studied also that Cristoforo Colombo discovered the American continent, lol!

[BJJ]

By the way Flagg, by the end of September current year, the Library will be open again.
Of course, only the public section...

[Flagg]

You know what evolution is? A lot of it is basically mutations and the mutants happen to do better at their job then their parents, so will reproduce creating more mutants.

Why do you think there are constant new pesticides being created to battle crop pests? Because mutants happen to have a natural resistance and will have far superior reproductive success.

[BJJ]

You know what evolution is? A lot of it is basically mutations and the mutants happen to do better at their job then their parents, so will reproduce creating more mutants.

Why do you think there are constant new pesticides being created to battle crop pests? Because mutants happen to have a natural resistance and will have far superior reproductive success.

Said in avery easy way... yes, I know what evolution is.
The point here is, what you do not know about it since humans (as we are today) were living more than 3 millions here ago and there are many proofs of this, not only the skeletons which would be enough anyway, do not you think?

Families of primate apperard in the Pleistocene period as well as the archeological findings of the humans.
The point is we did not evolve from primate but colonized the planet with them.
The Homo Sapiens was already "wise" in the Pleistocene and if you had studied archaeology and anthropology you knew that there are many evidences of this facts in several excavations in the XIX and XX century.
Unfortunately, those scientists who did go against Darwin's theory (who had great connections with the Freemasonry, what a case!!!) lost their jobs when tried to divulge what found and some others simply disappeared.

I just spoke about the surface...

You seem to be a clever man so, do not let them fool you.

[BJJ]

-3 Hours...

[BJJ]

Furthermore Flagg, think about what would happen in the world, how the world polulation would react on the news that we as humans were here onto this planet together with the primates, in the Pleistocene, that the Darwin's theory is just wrong and that scientists do not know really how the human being showed up on the Earth.
Also Christianity had to accept Darwin's ideas to make sense with scientists in order to give to the common people a starting point for us in this dimension.

These are simple reasons for which, to keep people down, they do not reveal what they know.
The humanity would be panic-striken if knew the reality of the things and The Vatican, to name one among all, would lose its mental power in a matter of a very short time...

Think about.

[BJJ]

Going...
Wish ME Luck!

[BJJ]

I just came back and I am worn-out.
My eyes are burning...

I have some answers for those who asked questions, just not tonight.
Also, it was an illuminating day.

PS
Sorry marcus but my camera was taken since I went through a body scanner.
Since a few weeks, you can find them either at the Fiumicino Apt, as well as in critical security area of Rome.
What a luck, I would say.

[KimboHalfSlice]

blah

[Phate]

i would like to know about how the theory of evolution is incorrect as i am in that field, though i don't believe it

[Phate]

i hope your joking here BJJ. evolution is a accepted proven theory.

it's nowhere close to that, it's just the best current theory

btw, a theory is a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact.

so saying evolution is a proven theory is an oxymoron

[smokeyd]

yup proven and theory dont go so good

[amcon]

cool enjoy !!!! any cool unknow things would be interesting

[BJJ]

blah

I am glad for you, decided to get rid of the ignorant things you have written yesterday!

Perhaps, you are growing up...

[BJJ]

i would like to know about how the theory of evolution is incorrect as i am in that field, though i don't believe it

Read post 68 and 70 to have a basement idea.
If you want to study on your own, let me know and I will give you names and books accessible to everyone.

Regarding the skeleton, I have a few things to say...

[KimboHalfSlice]

I am glad for you, decided to get rid of the ignorant things you have written yesterday!

Perhaps, you are growing up...

When I read it a second time it came across as more of an insult at you than at the Catholic Church.

I've no reason to insult you, I actually like reading your posts, especially the stuff about Anavar.

I harbour a lot of resentment for the Catholic Church but that's no reason for me to insult you.