Quote Originally Posted by Kratos View Post
No, it is not a red herring. I suggest you go back to school and learn your fallacies.

I'm not detracting for the issue at hand here. I'm introducing the issue that any claim of budget reduction is related to an increase in taxes and not the reform measures.

The CBO rates the bill's cost at 1 trillion...if I were to rate it, it would be much higher. I don't expect it to come in on budget.

And the tax increases are in the bill. I've listed them for all to see.
where is the fallacy?

This bill costs money, the money is proposed to be paid for through tax increases. True statement. Stop trying to sound smart, it isn't working.
And why don't you stop acting like an asshole? You've obviously got your mind made up and aren't actually interested in discussion. You just want to preach. And I am not interested in being preached to.

And how dare you imply I am uneducated. You have no idea who I am, and I can assure you I am likely far more educated than you. So get off your high horse.

Conversation over.