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    Are these short cycles only recommended for people who have been using AAS for years, or can short cycles be used for someones second or third cycle?

    iVE READ WHAT THIS GUY IS saying,
    Do large amounts of AAS and get killer gains in 4 weeks.
    Makes sense.

    But is this a good Idea and do you want to PCT right after for another 4 weeks?

    Im pretty sure these cycles work great for those on HRT and TRT but what about us "newer" guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man View Post
    I would honestly advise you to do a 6 week minimum cycle.

    You'll recover fine from 1.5 months shut down. If you're a slow-responder to getting your natural test restarted post cycle, then shorter bursts are a much better idea.

    Remember though, if you're using 19-nor compounds in these short cycles (IE) NPP or Tren your HPTA will still be very, very suppressed (even after your first injection, it should be ~100% shut down.) So make sure to do an aggressive PCT.

    Good luck w/ the cycle. I think the log would be an excellent idea.

    -VM

    thanks man. and i will have a comprehensive log as well

    Quote Originally Posted by twotimer View Post
    Are these short cycles only recommended for people who have been using AAS for years, or can short cycles be used for someones second or third cycle?

    iVE READ WHAT THIS GUY IS saying,
    Do large amounts of AAS and get killer gains in 4 weeks.
    Makes sense.

    But is this a good Idea and do you want to PCT right after for another 4 weeks?

    Im pretty sure these cycles work great for those on HRT and TRT but what about us "newer" guys.

    this was also one of my main questions...

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    Quote Originally Posted by twotimer View Post
    Are these short cycles only recommended for people who have been using AAS for years, or can short cycles be used for someones second or third cycle?

    iVE READ WHAT THIS GUY IS saying,
    Do large amounts of AAS and get killer gains in 4 weeks.
    Makes sense.

    But is this a good Idea and do you want to PCT right after for another 4 weeks?

    Im pretty sure these cycles work great for those on HRT and TRT but what about us "newer" guys.
    It says above:

    """

    STACKS AND DOSE EXAMPLES

    I like tren and I like d-bol and especially for a shorty. YES NEWBIE you can use these strong androgens and NO tren is not hard on the kidneys(myth).

    Some guys think I am nuts for recommending tren for a first cycle and they say it is too harsh.... but most of the same bro's will recommend a long cycle of test/d-bol for a newbie and I can assure you that a long cycle of test/d-bol is going to give you more sides than a shorty with tren and d-bol. Bro's test is just as "harsh" as tren and it causes a good deal of water retention, with resultant increase in BP(bad in some bro's) unless you use an estrogen inhibitor....and shit test/d-bol stacks are WAY "harsher" than tren.

    The only issue with tren is the frequent injecting required.....but I know some of you newbies have been researching for a long time and are fine with the idea of frequent injections(they aren't that bad!)

    """

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