Best way for PM cardio

[FireGuy]

My ketogenic statement was in regards to your statement that taking in simple sugars would somehow remove us from this catabolic environment.
Your are right, catabolism can occur whether you are in ketogenic or not. Glucongeonisis is the breakdown of protein, not necessarily muscle for energy.

As far as the "it worked for me mentallity" I am telling you it works for everyone I know and I know a lot of people in this business. As far as my being on a competition level or not, I am simply telling you the best and most efficient way to burn bodyfat. Do you think its a coincidence that the all of the best conditioned members on this board all subscribe to the same theory?

[RoadToRecovery]

My ketogenic statement was in regards to your statement that taking in simple sugars would somehow remove us from this catabolic environment.
Your are right, catabolism can occur whether you are in ketogenic or not. Glucongeonisis is the breakdown of protein, not necessarily muscle for energy.

Protein will usually always equate to muscle.

I need to clear something up. I messed up and left out "with".

Your body is in a catabolic state upon wake up and will stay that way until you consume food. Preferably, with a simple carb.

I always advocate eating a meal before AM cardio. Some will say BCAAs, or a protein shake. But I will say that a complete meal is beneficial.

As far as the "it worked for me mentallity" I am telling you it works for everyone I know and I know a lot of people in this business. As far as my being on a competition level or not, I am simply telling you the best and most efficient way to burn bodyfat. Do you think its a coincidence that the all of the best conditioned members on this board all subscribe to the same theory?

I think its not coincidental at all. Are you able to admit that its possible that this theory which was a popular one, is simply wrong? Its not rare that common practices are deemed wrong or non-beneficial in any circumstance... especially in the fitness field.

[FireGuy]

Protein will usually always equate to muscle.

I need to clear something up. I messed up and left out "with".



I always advocate eating a meal before AM cardio. Some will say BCAAs, or a protein shake. But I will say that a complete meal is beneficial.



I think its not coincidental at all. Are you able to admit that its possible that this theory which was a popular one, is simply wrong? Its not rare that common practices are deemed wrong or non-beneficial in any circumstance... especially in the fitness field.

Of course, you will rarely see me speak in absolutes on any topic in these forums. My mentor has a Masters Degree in exercise and nutrition. He has competed in nearly 200 bodybuilding competitions and has won more shows and trained more guys who have won shows than either of us could ever count. He is 55 years old now, still winning shows and starts every day with 45-60 minutes of high intensity cardio on an empty stomach.

[RoadToRecovery]

Of course, you will rarely see me speak in absolutes on any topic in these forums. My mentor has a Masters Degree in exercise and nutrition. He has competed in nearly 200 bodybuilding competitions and has won more shows and trained more guys who have won shows than either of us could ever count. He is 55 years old now, still winning shows and starts every day with 45-60 minutes of high intensity cardio on an empty stomach.

Old habits die hard.

I would never compare an elite athlete with an up and comer or average joe. It could be to the point where you can do everything wrong and see great results in certain people. Competitive body builders have above average genetics and could even see benefit from cardio on an empty stomach. Would you lift on an empty stomach? Arnold did. Does that mean its correct?