Orals only Cycle - need clarification please

[D7M]

Oral only cycles are crap for many reasons.
1) you can't stay on orals very long without some serious health risks, 4-8 weeks depending on the compound
2) orals are anabolic and bind to receptors, thus supressing your bodies test production.
3) orals are not testosterone, so when they supress you, they don't replace your bodies test
4) test does not protect the liver, it helps make the liver damage more worth it.
5)you need liver protection bc oral steroids must survive passing through the liverinorder to enter the blood stream. When they pass through your liver, they damage your liver.
6) by doing an oral only cycle, you are basically shouting to the world, "I'M IGNORANT. I KNOW MORE THAN EVERYONE"

So have you tried an oral only cycle, or are you just parroting what you've read?

I'm not trying to be a smart ass, I'm just curious.

I've tried oral only cycles. And while they don't compare (at all) to injectable cycles,

it's over-stating it a bit to say that all oral only cycle are crap, and means that person is ignorant.

Want more proof? BJJ's detailed var only cycle on here seemed to work pretty well for him.

The OP is 48 years old. I bet with good diet/training a var only cycle would work well for him.

And no, it won't kill his liver after 6-8 weeks.

[fattywarbucks]

So have you tried an oral only cycle, or are you just parroting what you've read?

I'm not trying to be a smart ass, I'm just curious.

I've tried oral only cycles. And while they don't compare (at all) to injectable cycles,

it's over-stating it a bit to say that all oral only cycle are crap, and means that person is ignorant.

Want more proof? BJJ's detailed var only cycle on here seemed to work pretty well for him.

The OP is 48 years old. I bet with good diet/training a var only cycle would work well for him.

And no, it won't kill his liver after 6-8 weeks.

To answer your curiosity:

YES, I most certainly am parroting!
Even though points 1-5 that I made were a bit too detailed to be written off as the typical Kyoure too young" parroting that you find in most posts.

I also find it funny, that it was you who talked me out of doing an anavar only cycle, in favor of test.

And like I said, I agreed with you on tbol and var,

Never did I say his liver would die in 6-8 weeks, I said the safest range for orals is 4-8 weeks depending on compound. I also explained to him HOW an oral damages his liver, like he asked. I also answer "does test protect liver" with " no, but it makes the damage worth it"

I have never done any steroid so I cannot give SUBJECTIVE RESPONSES, only well researched answers that can apply the average user.

if I stepped out of line or any of my points were wrong, I appologize

Oh and much respect to you

[D7M]

To answer your curiosity:

YES, I most certainly am parroting!
Even though points 1-5 that I made were a bit too detailed to be written off as the typical Kyoure too young" parroting that you find in most posts.

I also find it funny, that it was you who talked me out of doing an anavar only cycle, in favor of test.

And like I said, I agreed with you on tbol and var,

Never did I say his liver would die in 6-8 weeks, I said the safest range for orals is 4-8 weeks depending on compound. I also explained to him HOW an oral damages his liver, like he asked. I also answer "does test protect liver" with " no, but it makes the damage worth it"

I have never done any steroid so I cannot give SUBJECTIVE RESPONSES, only well researched answers that can apply the average user.

if I stepped out of line or any of my points were wrong, I appologize

Oh and much respect to you

It's cool, bro.

I only convinced you not to use an AI in an attempt to increase test to supra-physiological levels for muscle building (http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=423883).

I don't recall ever discussing orals vs. test in your case.

Having civil discussion like this are a good thing for the board, so thanks for your candid responses.

[fattywarbucks]

It's cool, bro.

I only convinced you not to use an AI in an attempt to increase test to supra-physiological levels for muscle building (http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=423883).

I don't recall ever discussing orals vs. test in your case.

Having civil discussion like this are a good thing for the board, so thanks for your candid responses.

Oh that's right. I wanted to use an AI as a booster. What a jackass hahahahahaha
Yeah got confused also wanted to do var at first...for strength atleast...still such a Noob move.

Hahaha

[fattywarbucks]

Oh and bjj cycle log was great, and var work very well for him especially since he is first and formost a practitioner of brazilian ju jitsu. Were he a body builder exclusively, he would have had a much different experience. All general answers are given towards a bodybuilding specific goal, unless otherwise noted by op, correct?

Either way.

If I came of like a douche, I do that some times and appologize

And I think when your health is at stake, something that "in no way compares to an injectable cycle" can be called crap