Here's what I do and my shoulders are pretty meaty.....
Dumbell press - 3-4 sets
side laterals - 3 sets
front's - 3 sets
rears - 4 sets
For traps I do 2 sets of shrugs on the smith machine with the bar behind my ass and then 2 sets of shrugs with the bar infront. My traps stick up through all my shirts so i'd say they are great for building them.
~Haz~




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