The infamous lat 'V' taper

[gbrice75]

I'm big waisted (38" waist) and never really had that V look. I'm OK with big shoulders, arms chest and legs (well, legs are lagging, but working on it)

Do you think it's specifically because of having a relatively bigger waist, or do you just not have well developed lats? Or a combination of both?

[Times Roman]

Do you think it's specifically because of having a relatively bigger waist, or do you just not have well developed lats? Or a combination of both?

It's a little of both I imagine, but when in the mirror and "muscling up", the lats do pop out nicely. So maybe now that you mention it, If i had, say, a 32 waist, there would be much more contrast, and therefore more noticeable.

You know, at some point, I think a fella is just "stuck" with a certain minimum size waiste. My luv handles are almost gone, but I can still pinch an inch there. But I think the bottom line is I'm just big there. didn't used to be that way. But very little fat. Not sure what else I can do. I "may" be able to get down to a 36 if I try real hard, but i fear that would mean impacting additional muscle gains elsewhere.

Any ideas?

[gbrice75]

It's a little of both I imagine, but when in the mirror and "muscling up", the lats do pop out nicely. So maybe now that you mention it, If i had, say, a 32 waist, there would be much more contrast, and therefore more noticeable.

You know, at some point, I think a fella is just "stuck" with a certain minimum size waiste. My luv handles are almost gone, but I can still pinch an inch there. But I think the bottom line is I'm just big there. didn't used to be that way. But very little fat. Not sure what else I can do. I "may" be able to get down to a 36 if I try real hard, but i fear that would mean impacting additional muscle gains elsewhere.

Any ideas?

Out of curiosity, how tall are you? I'm just asking, because taller/bigger guys can sometimes have a bigger waist. For instance, take a look at a guy like 50 Cent (the rapper, assuming you know who he is) - he has an excellent physique, but apparantly has a 38 inch waist - and also happens to be 6'3 or so. If you didn't know who he was, you might think he's on the fat side just based on his waist. I'm willing to bet he's around 10% bodyfat. So waist size can be misleading sometimes...

[Times Roman]

Out of curiosity, how tall are you? I'm just asking, because taller/bigger guys can sometimes have a bigger waist. For instance, take a look at a guy like 50 Cent (the rapper, assuming you know who he is) - he has an excellent physique, but apparantly has a 38 inch waist - and also happens to be 6'3 or so. If you didn't know who he was, you might think he's on the fat side just based on his waist. I'm willing to bet he's around 10% bodyfat. So waist size can be misleading sometimes...

I am exactly 6' and one half inch
and weigh 225 to 230 depending....

I've mentioned this before, but when I was running competitively, I was around 160 and a 32" waist. I can't possibly imagine ever losing enough weight to get back to a 32" waiste. my body would have to shrivel up so much it would be pointless.

I don't know if this is true or not, but don't our organs grow a little as we age? I know the liver does somewhat. Or is my bad memory playing tricks on me again? Cuz I'm thinking (for lack of any other explanation) that my internal organs must be bigger or something???

any thoughts?

[gbrice75]

I am exactly 6' and one half inch
and weigh 225 to 230 depending....

I've mentioned this before, but when I was running competitively, I was around 160 and a 32" waist. I can't possibly imagine ever losing enough weight to get back to a 32" waiste. my body would have to shrivel up so much it would be pointless.

I don't know if this is true or not, but don't our organs grow a little as we age? I know the liver does somewhat. Or is my bad memory playing tricks on me again? Cuz I'm thinking (for lack of any other explanation) that my internal organs must be bigger or something???

any thoughts?

Hmm... I know you're right about the living enlarging somewhat, but i'm not sure about other organs. That would make sense though, that the body also grows to accommodate this natural process. Therefore pants a person wore when they were 20 can't necessarily be worn at 50. However, we see plenty of very skinny older people, 60's and beyond, easily with 32 inch waist, less in some cases. So, I guess that kinda debunks that idea...

[Times Roman]

Hmm... I know you're right about the living enlarging somewhat, but i'm not sure about other organs. That would make sense though, that the body also grows to accommodate this natural process. Therefore pants a person wore when they were 20 can't necessarily be worn at 50. However, we see plenty of very skinny older people, 60's and beyond, easily with 32 inch waist, less in some cases. So, I guess that kinda debunks that idea...

Maybe.... but some of those older people you refer to may have been skinny all their lives. I'm thinking that as the body grows so do the organs, but try to shrink the body, and the organs are kinda "stuck" where they are at.

I have nothing to back up this hypothesis, just a "gut" feeling! =)

[First6]

For instance, take a look at a guy like 50 Cent (the rapper, assuming you know who he is) - he has an excellent physique...

I think it comes down to genes at this point. That huge V falls into the catagory of you got what you got. Sure you can enhance it but you have to have the right body shape to start with.
There is a LOT of guys who work out hard regularly that just don't have it.

Oh and btw... you havn't seen 50 cent lately have you. He threw it all away Bro! Lost almost 60 lbs! Here are some pics I found quick: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_591102.html

[Times Roman]

I think it comes down to genes at this point. That huge V falls into the catagory of you got what you got. Sure you can enhance it but you have to have the right body shape to start with.
There is a LOT of guys who work out hard regularly that just don't have it.

Oh and btw... you havn't seen 50 cent lately have you. He threw it all away Bro! Lost almost 60 lbs! Here are some pics I found quick: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_591102.html

so fitty cent is now really 32 cent?
nominate for a name change anyone?

[First6]

so fitty cent is now really 32 cent?
nominate for a name change anyone?

good stuff

[gbrice75]

so fitty cent is now really 32 cent?
nominate for a name change anyone?

lol nice dude!

[gbrice75]

Oh and btw... you havn't seen 50 cent lately have you. He threw it all away Bro! Lost almost 60 lbs! Here are some pics I found quick: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_591102.html

Actually I have seen him, he did this for a movie. Imagine purposely LOSING all your gains! I guess for the right price, it's worth it!