Project GET BIG: My New Cycle

[rootsnatty]

I've considered the problem with the orals and my liver, but that is kind of the reason I'm running both together. Generally, I would run only anadrol and at around 200 mg a day to elicit the type of gains I'm shooting for. By combining the two I'm able to get those same results at a lower dose of each with less side effects, or at least that's my logic which has been corroborated by several friends of mine and internet success stories. Also, I believe the liver toxicity issues associated with oral steroids have largely been blown out of proportion. It seems like everyone discussing steroids on the internet is under the impression that orals will MELT your liver instantly, but this is, I believe, the product of an embellished internet dialectic and the science behind the issue is lacking and indicates that orals are probably not as bad as people would make them out to be, indeed that they have a bad rap. I would like to state that I am not saying orals are in all ways fine and harmless, one should definitely always approach orals with due caution. Additionally, it will only be six weeks. If my liver can't take six weeks of anything at 23 years of age then I have a seriously weak-sauce liver and should probably be eating quiche instead of barbecue. I do, however, appreciate your opinions, so how about I get my liver values checked before and after to act as a human guinea pig and shed some light on the combination of orals and its impact on the liver?

Oldschoolfitness, glad to see you back again for my latest thread and I'm looking forward to some more good conversation.

Good commentary everyone, keep it going!

[tjax03]

I've considered the problem with the orals and my liver, but that is kind of the reason I'm running both together. Generally, I would run only anadrol and at around 200 mg a day to elicit the type of gains I'm shooting for. By combining the two I'm able to get those same results at a lower dose of each with less side effects, or at least that's my logic which has been corroborated by several friends of mine and internet success stories. Also, I believe the liver toxicity issues associated with oral steroids have largely been blown out of proportion. It seems like everyone discussing steroids on the internet is under the impression that orals will MELT your liver instantly, but this is, I believe, the product of an embellished internet dialectic and the science behind the issue is lacking and indicates that orals are probably not as bad as people would make them out to be, indeed that they have a bad rap. I would like to state that I am not saying orals are in all ways fine and harmless, one should definitely always approach orals with due caution. Additionally, it will only be six weeks. If my liver can't take six weeks of anything at 23 years of age then I have a seriously weak-sauce liver and should probably be eating quiche instead of barbecue. I do, however, appreciate your opinions, so how about I get my liver values checked before and after to act as a human guinea pig and shed some light on the combination of orals and its impact on the liver?

Oldschoolfitness, glad to see you back again for my latest thread and I'm looking forward to some more good conversation.

Good commentary everyone, keep it going!

Don't underestimate the detrimental effects of orals. People probably do overstate the dangers, but I think you have conversely understated them. You have suggested the smartest thing to do though, which is to get your enzymes checked. I would suggest that if possible, you get them checked before, in the middle of, and after the use of orals. Make sure to have some n-acetyl cysteine on hand for liver support, that it pretty much the best thing to take to protect your liver. It can be bought over the counter and it is the same drug that people are given when they suffer from tyenol-induced liver toxicity. Good luck with the cycle.

P.S. I like how you believe in the anabolic effects of barbeque, if thats the case I guess I'll have to start eating it more often.

[rootsnatty]

Don't underestimate the detrimental effects of orals. People probably do overstate the dangers, but I think you have conversely understated them. You have suggested the smartest thing to do though, which is to get your enzymes checked. I would suggest that if possible, you get them checked before, in the middle of, and after the use of orals. Make sure to have some n-acetyl cysteine on hand for liver support, that it pretty much the best thing to take to protect your liver. It can be bought over the counter and it is the same drug that people are given when they suffer from tyenol-induced liver toxicity. Good luck with the cycle.

P.S. I like how you believe in the anabolic effects of barbeque, if thats the case I guess I'll have to start eating it more often.

I will definitely be getting some of this n-acetyl cysteine after I do some research on it, as I have never heard of it. I'm going to set up appointments to get my liver values checked before, during, and after this one. If I see something start to go haywire I'll be discontinuing the orals immediately.