Multi-culturalism a fail in Germany

[Times Roman]

Multiculturalism is ok, but you can't have huge distinct populations living in The same region under the same rule of law. People have their own values and Identities. If I moved somewhere I wouldn't want to act like the chinese for example. I would find groups of westerners and live like I have always lived. It's no different if you flip that around. Who from turkey wants to act like a western European and lose thier cultural heritage. Believe it or not, a persons ancesters have a profound influence on who a person is today.

Mate, I'm not so sure I agree with all that. for example, in the city of san francisco, there is a huge chinese sub population living in an area we call "China town". Why would they not be able to follow the same laws as you and I? It is very possible, and probable, that people retain their culture when coming here. I think it is expected? And within one generation, their children are fairly mainstreem, and speak english.
My family actually seeks out these cultural differences. for example, once or twice a year, we will pack up the kids and do an all dayer by checking out China Town. We buy from the merchants, we eat the meals, and we rub shoulders with the people. I think it's pretty friggin righteous! What's wrong with that? If there wasn't the cultural difference, but only chinese people that were mainstream, how boring would that be?

[V8Assassin]

Mate, I'm not so sure I agree with all that. for example, in the city of san francisco, there is a huge chinese sub population living in an area we call "China town". Why would they not be able to follow the same laws as you and I? It is very possible, and probable, that people retain their culture when coming here. I think it is expected? And within one generation, their children are fairly mainstreem, and speak english.
My family actually seeks out these cultural differences. for example, once or twice a year, we will pack up the kids and do an all dayer by checking out China Town. We buy from the merchants, we eat the meals, and we rub shoulders with the people. I think it's pretty friggin righteous! What's wrong with that? If there wasn't the cultural difference, but only chinese people that were mainstream, how boring would that be?

See I think the fact that this particular group has either by choice or because of enviromental circumstance have become segregated into a section of the city named after their racial identity is an example of how multiculturalism is failing.

[Times Roman]

See I think the fact that this particular group has either by choice or because of enviromental circumstance have become segregated into a section of the city named after their racial identity is an example of how multiculturalism is failing.

Why would you look at that as a failure? Unless you are seeking a homogeneous society, where everyone shares the same customs and culture.

IMHO, it is OK for there to be pockets of culture different than mainstream. There is nothing wrong with being different. But we all have to get along.

[V8Assassin]

Flints or Everett & Jones is what I was referring to. First, the meat is smoked with a dry rub. then out comes this fantastically delicious sauce you lavish over the meat when your meal is served. The reference to "black" is the ethnicity of the people that typically cook meat this way in my area. The food is very authentic.

I was just messing with you because everybody where I am from cooks it that way! It's not a black or a white thing, it's just how it is done. With that said, the originations of true bbq comes from the black communities of the south.

Why would you look at that as a failure? Unless you are seeking a homogeneous society, where everyone shares the same customs and culture.

IMHO, it is OK for there to be pockets of culture different than mainstream. There is nothing wrong with being different. But we all have to get along.

I am not personally seeking a homogenous society, but I do think in general humans as a whole are. Why else not assimilate with ease and give up the old cultures? I am also not saying it is right or wrong, just an observation of human behavior.

The reason I view it as an example of how multiculturalism fails is what I stated above. The true goal of a multiculturalistic society should be to include all of the good parts of each culture in an effort towards the assimilation of all people to form one new, unique culture in which race/religion is no longer considered. However, because human nature is to seek out one's own and hold onto those values it is impossible to create such a society. In the end we have a splintered, systematically divided nation in which competing groups lobby for power and control based on their ability to form voting blocks.

[MuscleScience]

Mate, I'm not so sure I agree with all that. for example, in the city of san francisco, there is a huge chinese sub population living in an area we call "China town". Why would they not be able to follow the same laws as you and I? It is very possible, and probable, that people retain their culture when coming here. I think it is expected? And within one generation, their children are fairly mainstreem, and speak english.
My family actually seeks out these cultural differences. for example, once or twice a year, we will pack up the kids and do an all dayer by checking out China Town. We buy from the merchants, we eat the meals, and we rub shoulders with the people. I think it's pretty friggin righteous! What's wrong with that? If there wasn't the cultural difference, but only chinese people that were mainstream, how boring would that be?

I'm talking about on a much larger scale. Sure a town can have it's own Chinatown, or whatever. What I am talking about is if for example you have a large scale population with it's own identity over a sizable amount of land within a country as z whole. To use Germany's own history, milions of Germans migrated to areas around the Volga river in Russia. At one point in time after WWI and II these areas where given autonomy to rule themselves and form thier own government independent to that of the Russian or later the soviet governments. This worked without much conflict until Russia got nervous about having a distinct German speaking state within it's borders. They eventually took the autonomy of these German states in Russian and either kicked most of them out or they migrate back to Germany proper. It's debated which actually happened. To this day there are distinct pockets in eastern Europe that are almost completely Germanic. These areas still do this day talk of gaining autonomy. Many have chose to return to Germany under a law/s passed in the 1990's. These ancestors of Germanic origin have the right to return to Germany under the right of return, provided that they can prove their germanic origin or speak a recognized dialect of German. If is estimated that there are as many as 5 million Germans living in limbo outside of what is now Germany proper.