safe levels of steroids for first time user

[john300]

First off i would agree with Bob up there on reading more before starting a cycle... I also can nearly guarantee you that your diet is not in check at all if ur 5'9 and weighing only 159, steroids arnt a magical thing you have to eat for them to work at all and not even eat junk you have to eat clean good food with at least around 2 grams of protein per lb. if your trying to gain weight... And what do you have planned on for your pct??? that cycle right there is pretty much totally pointless for multiple reasons testosterone enanthate needs to be injected at least eod if not ed and winny is the same way needs to be injected around eod you would be far better of using a mixed testosterone for your first cycle and i would suggest ether andropen275 or sustanon 250, both of which i have seen people do for there first cycle at only 1cc a week twice a week and have great results

and also yes BOB winni is liver toxic even if you do use the depot and is very rough on the joints with both the depot and oral

hey thx for the reply, soz im 5ft7 and a half.. but im not after packing on huge muscle.. just some more lean cut muscle... i do eat clean food, plus 3 protein shakes and i take creatine. Towards the end of the cycle i was gunna pick up something for pct (i cant remember the name of it soz)

[FirstTimeRage]

hey thx for the reply, soz im 5ft7 and a half.. but im not after packing on huge muscle.. just some more lean cut muscle... i do eat clean food, plus 3 protein shakes and i take creatine. Towards the end of the cycle i was gunna pick up something for pct (i cant remember the name of it soz)

there is a diet section further down the forum, go to it and post your diet. People in there will tear it apart and likely create you a brand new one.

anyone can take a first cycle of test and gain 15-20 pounds, but you want to gain more then that, because alot of it will go away after cycle if you don't get your diet down.