Quote Originally Posted by Twist View Post
I am not arguing this guys odd position, nor would I subscribe to it. But if you have some evidence other than, "because the big guys do it" stating that a person needs 1.5g per pound of body weight I would love to see it. This guys position is odd that's for sure. I didn't read the article about it though.
There is no other evidence supporting this, nor is there evidence of this.

Quote Originally Posted by calstate23 View Post
I'm not trying to be arrogant when I say this but yes because the big guys do it! I've proven over and over again to myself and so have my friends that optimal protein intake should at least be over 1.5 grams protein per pound of body weight. We just do not see the results at a lower intake as we do with a higher intake. I don't know about you, but I've always been the "Proof Is In The Puddin" type of guy. If you got the goods to prove it then I would rather take someones advice who can put it to good use.

Protein should not drop below the 1.5 gram protein per pound body weight. Test it yourself and then tell me. Unless you are TRULY THE EXCEPTION your best results will be with this intake or higher. Obviously depending on individuals and steroid use this will vary but its best to stick around 1.5 minimum. If you are cycling I personally will not go below 2 grams protein per pound body weight.
You don't have to try to be arrogant, it comes natural. Twist has substantially more knowledge and respect than you and he still comes off humble and simply asking for you to back up your statements with facts.

If you are going to say you and your friends do it and it works, but it didn't work otherwise, then you would need to list the specifics of the protein percentages or grams that you tried before, as in "me and my 3 friends, tried diets of .5 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight for 8 weeks while performing workout x and not taking massive amounts of steroids and added y lbs of lean muscle, then we went to .75 grams, then 1.0, then 1.25, then 1.5, etc... etc..." also you would need to list age/ht/wt for each and other factors, including but not limited to, steroid use.

I would wager your "proof is in the puddin" is more like, I've always done it this way while taking steroids and it worked for me. Your statement about "having the goods" is further evidence of your absolute lack if intelligent reasoning. I have seen so many better built guys in the gym with terrible diet and exercise habits that wouldn't work for anyone but the most genetically and metabolically gifted.